What's all the fuss about.

[Tony Blair]

I've become aware that a lot of people here seem to want to criticise me a lot.

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most people are quite content with the status quo, and that includes both labour and Tory voters, by far the majority of those who vote in this country.
I have the support of my constituency, of my party, and of the electorate as a whole.

If the left have any meaningful alternative to the policies of my party, why haven't they put it together, publicised it, and obtained support for it at a general election.

People have accused me of being dishonest, but I have always made it clear that I occupy the centre ground in politics. I have made it totally clear what my politics are since I was elected, and my leadership has not been challenged.

What alternative do the left offer?

Put your grievances to me here, and I'll do my best to answer them.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I've become aware that a lot of people here seem to want to criticise me a lot.

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most people are quite content with the status quo, and that includes both labour and Tory voters, by far the majority of those who vote in this country.
I have the support of my constituency, of my party, and of the electorate as a whole.

If the left have any meaningful alternative to the policies of my party, why haven't they put it together, publicised it, and obtained support for it at a general election.

People have accused me of being dishonest, but I have always made it clear that I occupy the centre ground in politics. I have made it totally clear what my politics are since I was elected, and my leadership has not been challenged.

What alternative do the left offer?

Put your grievances to me here, and I'll do my best to answer them.

How much will it cost me to buy Belboid a working peerage?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[kakuma]

you got crap hair

and yer boss is a religious fundamentalist

 

[TAE]

I've become aware that a lot of people here seem to want to criticise me a lot.

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most people are quite content with the status quo, and that includes both labour and Tory voters, by far the majority of those who vote in this country.
I have the support of my constituency, of my party, and of the electorate as a whole.

If the left have any meaningful alternative to the policies of my party, why haven't they put it together, publicised it, and obtained support for it at a general election.

People have accused me of being dishonest, but I have always made it clear that I occupy the centre ground in politics. I have made it totally clear what my politics are since I was elected, and my leadership has not been challenged.

What alternative do the left offer?

Put your grievances to me here, and I'll do my best to answer them.

Impersonating the PM is a serious crime.

 

[Belushi]

How come you married a minger Tone?

 

[tbaldwin]

I've become aware that a lot of people here seem to want to criticise me a lot.

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most people are quite content with the status quo, and that includes both labour and Tory voters, by far the majority of those who vote in this country.
I have the support of my constituency, of my party, and of the electorate as a whole.

If the left have any meaningful alternative to the policies of my party, why haven't they put it together, publicised it, and obtained support for it at a general election.

People have accused me of being dishonest, but I have always made it clear that I occupy the centre ground in politics. I have made it totally clear what my politics are since I was elected, and my leadership has not been challenged.

What alternative do the left offer?

Put your grievances to me here, and I'll do my best to answer them.

Well obviously your not as big a twat as most of the people on here,tone.BUT you have made some bad mistakes......PPP,PFI giving more and more money to privatised train companies. Mass Immigration and Anti Social Crime out of control... The House of Lords reform a load of bullshit.......
You really should have got me to be Home secretary and i could have helped boost your poll ratings considerably by bringing back the stocks and hanging and national service.

Anyway youve got my number give us a ring....

 

[Tony Blair]

How much will it cost me to buy Belboid a working peerage?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Without wishing to admit in anyway that the party has accepted cash in exchange for peerages, as it's a matter of policy that the funding of the party is organised without my knowledge, I have to say that personally I think it's in the interests of democracy in this country that the Labour party continues to exist. And frankly there has been a funding shortfall for the Labour party in recent years, and if it turned out to be true that some people had been given peerages in exchange for cash, then, honestly, I think it's a good exchange, it's a case of the existence of the Labour party versus an irrelevant honour that doesn't grant any meaningful power or privilege to the recipient. The good outweighs the bad.

The only alternative I can see is that the state funds political parties to exist, and this might not be a bad idea, but in the absence of state funding, if political parties can't accept money from those willing to give it, then how is politics in this country to continue. ?

Who is belboid anyway?

 

[kakuma]

serious answer, the fact that your best mates with george bush and have gone along with his fucked up foriegn policy against the wishes of the majority of the population was a little bit annoying

 

[rebel warrior]

'Tony Blair' - shouldn't you be busy talking to God about fighting terrorism or something rather than wasting time on Urban 75?

 

[Andy the Don]

Apart from various foreign policy disasters. Your biggest error was not re nationalising the railways on day one.

 

[Tony Blair]

Well obviously your not as big a twat as most of the people on here,tone.BUT you have made some bad mistakes......PPP,PFI giving more and more money to privatised train companies. Mass Immigration and Anti Social Crime out of control... The House of Lords reform a load of bullshit.......
You really should have got me to be Home secretary and i could have helped boost your poll ratings considerably by bringing back the stocks and hanging and national service.

Anyway youve got my number give us a ring....

Well I have always made it clear that I thought the government should work in partnership with the private sector. Are you in favour of confrontation? It's a fact that the unsatisfactory nature of the privatisation of the railways was created by the Tories. We've just had to make the best of a bad job. I am proud of the fact that Britain is an open country that allows people of all nationalities who want to come here and work to do so, and frankly, a lot of the public sector, particularly the NHS, would collapse, were it not for what you call mass immigration. We need workers to come from other countries to do the jobs that the british won't do, at rates that are affordable to the government and to the consumer.

And I must say, most of those who vote rely to a considerable extent on the invaluable help that workers from abroad bring this country to maintain their standard of living.

I have said from the first that I intended to be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. And this is why I find the accusations of authoritarianism laughable. It is essential that the government is clear about what the system is, what we're trying to do, and sends out a clear message that people who do not wish to fit into the system, will not be helped by the system.

 

[Tony Blair]

Apart from various foreign policy disasters. Your biggest error was not re nationalising the railways on day one.

But we can't just renege on contracts signed by the previous government just because we don't agree with them, or we wouldn't have credibility as a government.

 

[goldenecitrone]

No way is that Tony Blair. It's Gordon Brown on a wind up. Fuck off Gordy, yer not fooling anyone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Well obviously your not as big a twat as most of the people on here,tone.

What!? You're fucking kidding right?

 

[kakuma]

look tony

it's your foriegn policy and your friendship with bush that pisses everyone off the most

even the people who were dumb enough to vote for him last time are sick of him

 

[Tony Blair]

serious answer, the fact that your best mates with george bush and have gone along with his fucked up foriegn policy against the wishes of the majority of the population was a little bit annoying

Well you may find it annoying, but actually, I dont' think you understand the real situation.

The truth of the matter is that the americans would have gone ahead and occupied Iraq whether I supported them or not. It's been well-documented that the nature of the american administration is quite different from the British administration, even including abuse of prisoners in Abu Ghraib. I took the realistic view, that if this was going to happen anyway, it was better that Britain was involved both for Britain, and for Iraq, iin that we have some leverage in the future of Iraq, which america would find far easier to dictate if it was in sole control.

On the God question. Yes, I did feel that God was instructing me to be involved, though I'm no longer totally clear why. Some expectations have been dashed. Maybe God wanted to cast me as a villain, in which case, surely I should play the part as well as possible. Maybe God needs his head examined. Maybe you should blame God rather than me.

 

[Tony Blair]

And honestly, I do think it's in Britain's best interests to have a strong alliance both politically and economically with the americans, irrespective of who happens to be in the White house currently. And if you consider the election results, I have to say, it looks as if most people agree with me.

 

[hungry 4 kicks]

I've become aware that a lot of people here seem to want to criticise me a lot.

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most people are quite content with the status quo, and that includes both labour and Tory voters, by far the majority of those who vote in this country.
I have the support of my constituency, of my party, and of the electorate as a whole.

If the left have any meaningful alternative to the policies of my party, why haven't they put it together, publicised it, and obtained support for it at a general election.

People have accused me of being dishonest, but I have always made it clear that I occupy the centre ground in politics. I have made it totally clear what my politics are since I was elected, and my leadership has not been challenged.

What alternative do the left offer?

Put your grievances to me here, and I'll do my best to answer them.

Are you really Tony Blair?

 

[kakuma]

Well you may find it annoying, but actually, I dont' think you understand the real situation.

The truth of the matter is that the americans would have gone ahead and occupied Iraq whether I supported them or not. It's been well-documented that the nature of the american administration is quite different from the British administration, even including abuse of prisoners in Abu Ghraib. I took the realistic view, that if this was going to happen anyway, it was better that Britain was involved both for Britain, and for Iraq, iin that we have some leverage in the future of Iraq, which america would find far easier to dictate if it was in sole control.

On the God question. Yes, I did feel that God was instructing me to be involved, though I'm no longer totally clear why. Some expectations have been dashed. Maybe God wanted to cast me as a villain, in which case, surely I should play the part as well as possible. Maybe God needs his head examined. Maybe you should blame God rather than me.

but your support gave hime credibility which he wouldn't have had otherwise, i don't reckon it was good for Britain to invade Iraq, or for Iraq for Britain to support it

i don't believe in God, i don't think anyone would have voted for you if you said God would be to blame for your fuck ups

can't believe i'm having an argument with 'Tony Blair'

 

[Roadkill]

Are you really Tony Blair?

Yes.

And I'm really Lord Nelson.

 

[Fong]

Why can't you speak out on your principles, instead remaining quite over human rights abuses carried out by and on behalf of your allies, instead you have your lackey's proclaim about how vocal you are in private.

Well you are the leader of our country, people look to you to get a response, a reaction that is supposed to be representative of our nation. How are they supposed to know we are against wrongful imprisonment, torture and human rights abuses, when you won't speak out about it?

On PFIs why is that the money you spend on consultants isn't included in any of your efficiency figures, isn't this a very poor tactic that if done by private business would be considered a fraud on shareholders?

You lay off in redundancies civil service staff to reach this ridiculous savings that you have claimed are possible, you then spend 3 times as much money on consultants and freelancers who earn up to a 1,000 pound a day to fulfil the commitment of the deptartment.

Your labour government has spent more on Consultants and put more money into the hands of KPMG, Accenture..etc etc then any previous government, your own ministers and advisors are getting rich off it. They present a scheme so incredibly complex and full of beaucracy that government departments need to hire Consultants to come in and explain it, but wait, it gets better, cause the very people now working for these private consultant companies are the advisors that created the scheme that no one could follow.

To put it in basic terms, your advisors are digging holes then selling their services as hole fillers back to the government at premium prices.

All the time you claim to be saving money, while anyone with half a brain can see that saving 300,000 on wage bills and spending 2bn on consultants hasn't saved you a penny.

 

[kakuma]

And honestly, I do think it's in Britain's best interests to have a strong alliance both politically and economically with the americans, irrespective of who happens to be in the White house currently. And if you consider the election results, I have to say, it looks as if most people agree with me.

 

[kakuma]

i just rolleyed Blair

wait till i tell me mam!!!!

 

[Fong]

Here is another one for you.

How can you condone the creation of an ID card scheme at this time?

Regardless of any of the other issues about how effective it will be, whether it is detrimental to our civil liberties and if you were in fact lying in your manifesto when you said it would be voluntary.

Aside from all of that.

How can you justify the cost involved in such a scheme while at the same time the government is contemplating raising the retirement age because of the shortfull in the pension scheme.

It would seem to some that you are about to spend a vast amount of money on preparing and then rolling out this scheme, at a time when the government is claiming to be cash strapped. If instead of an ID scheme you pumped that money into the pension shortfull, could we not stave off a problem for several years?

 

[tbaldwin]

Well I have always made it clear that I thought the government should work in partnership with the private sector. Are you in favour of confrontation? It's a fact that the unsatisfactory nature of the privatisation of the railways was created by the Tories. We've just had to make the best of a bad job. I am proud of the fact that Britain is an open country that allows people of all nationalities who want to come here and work to do so, and frankly, a lot of the public sector, particularly the NHS, would collapse, were it not for what you call mass immigration. We need workers to come from other countries to do the jobs that the british won't do, at rates that are affordable to the government and to the consumer.

And I must say, most of those who vote rely to a considerable extent on the invaluable help that workers from abroad bring this country to maintain their standard of living.

I have said from the first that I intended to be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. And this is why I find the accusations of authoritarianism laughable. It is essential that the government is clear about what the system is, what we're trying to do, and sends out a clear message that people who do not wish to fit into the system, will not be helped by the system.

OK work in partnership with private companies tone, ask them what they think of you giving so much of their money to the crooks running the railways...
Britain should be open to genuine refugees but anyone who thinks economic migration is a positive thing is skating on very thin ice tony...
We are taking the skilled workers poorer countries need most..
And at the same time we have millions of people unemployed or underemployed, ou need to massivelly reform the benefits system and give people the support and incentives to train for jobs that need doing not take people from poorer countries to do them.
Anti Social crime is an ongoing problem and people want tougher sentences for rapists and muggers etc. You have failed to change and are not tough enough on crime....
You certainly are not authoritarian Tony that i very much agree with. Sadly your far too liberal like most of your wanky critics on here really.

 

[Bear]

I've become aware that a lot of people here seem to want to criticise me a lot.

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most people are quite content with the status quo, and that includes both labour and Tory voters, by far the majority of those who vote in this country.
I have the support of my constituency, of my party, and of the electorate as a whole.

If the left have any meaningful alternative to the policies of my party, why haven't they put it together, publicised it, and obtained support for it at a general election.

People have accused me of being dishonest, but I have always made it clear that I occupy the centre ground in politics. I have made it totally clear what my politics are since I was elected, and my leadership has not been challenged.

What alternative do the left offer?

Put your grievances to me here, and I'll do my best to answer them.

Tell you one thing I'm pissed of at you for Tony. You telling fibs on ID cards. You see, you might not have technically lied in your manifesto when you said they'd be voluntary but most of us consider a lie to be an attempt to decieve. And you've been a right deciteful little bugger on this one haven't you Ton? I mean telling us they were voluntary and then sneaking in all that stuff about having to get one when it's time to renew our passports and therefore preventing us from leaving the country if we don't agree, that's decite and therefore a lie to all us in masses Tony. What were you thinking when you did that???

 

[Tony Blair]

Here is another one for you.

How can you condone the creation of an ID card scheme at this time?

Regardless of any of the other issues about how effective it will be, whether it is detrimental to our civil liberties and if you were in fact lying in your manifesto when you said it would be voluntary.

Aside from all of that.

How can you justify the cost involved in such a scheme while at the same time the government is contemplating raising the retirement age because of the shortfull in the pension scheme.

It would seem to some that you are about to spend a vast amount of money on preparing and then rolling out this scheme, at a time when the government is claiming to be cash strapped. If instead of an ID scheme you pumped that money into the pension shortfull, could we not stave off a problem for several years?

Well honestly, the fact is that a lot of state resources are wasted on people and that is because Britain has maintained the old-fashioned view that Identity cards are an infringement of civil liberties. ID cards will help the police deal with crime. They will help benefit agencies identify who is eligible, and they will help people who are eligible prove that they're eligible. And most importantly, they will help the government have far more knowledge of what we're doing, and make us far more capable of dealing with the problems facing this country. No-one really knows the full extent of benefit fraud. But it is true that once everyone has to have an ID card, it will be a lot more difficult to impersonate someone else. Similarly with bank fraud.

I have always made it clear that I'm in favour of Modernisation. I could not have been clearer. And the introduction of ID cards is part of that process.

 

[kakuma]

how do we know you are tony blair and not someone from the tory party on a windup??

 

[Donna Ferentes]

It's very good, but somebody's going to be in trouble over dual registrations.

ID cards wouldn't solve that, eh?

 

[perplexis]

But we can't just renege on contracts signed by the previous government just because we don't agree with them, or we wouldn't have credibility as a government.

Pardon?
So it's legitimate to continue with policies that you seem to be opposed to, simply because they're already in place?
The point of electing a new governement is that that new government makes changes!
Your credibility as a government is not determined by your management of contracts with corporations, it is determined by how the electorate as a whole, not just the corporate elite, view you.
If you fail to turn-around the flawed policies of your predecesors you are as bad, if not worse than, they were.