Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Would they know what to do with actual good coffee and donuts?
What would YOU do in power?
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Would they know what to do with actual good coffee and donuts?
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
About what?
jiggajagga
Judge_Mental
1) Put Weltweit up against the wall along with all royalty and hangers on
2) Nationalise banks
3) put an immediate bar on anyone with over £1 million in the bank from removing their money and taking it abroad.
4) Put those millionaires who could not explain how they got their millions and those who have paid very little tax up against the wall. ("Hello Mr Murdoch, nice to meet you. Just stand here will you please?" )
5) Shout 'Fire!'
2) Nationalise banks
3) put an immediate bar on anyone with over £1 million in the bank from removing their money and taking it abroad.
4) Put those millionaires who could not explain how they got their millions and those who have paid very little tax up against the wall. ("Hello Mr Murdoch, nice to meet you. Just stand here will you please?" )
5) Shout 'Fire!'
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
_angel_
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Wouldn't some areas with low incomes and not much industry come a cropper under a 100% local income tax plan? I can sort of see where you're coming from though.
Maidmarian
Stubborn Socialist
* wonders if democracy is such a good idea after all *
I wasn't being serious. But a thick twat like you would never know.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Yeah it's hard to tell, what with your genuine opinions being a joke.
... says a commie
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
*sigh* the username is a direct reference to Eblen Moglen, the professor of Law at Columbia Uni. He wrote a manifesto calling for the abolition of intellectual property rights. Don't read it, youd have an anuerysm from outrage.
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7146
Video of the talk is available at YouTube and Archive.org under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license. Geof Glass has produced a transcript of the main part of the talk, under (of course) the same license.
A pity that the talk does not currently seem to be available in a free format. About four months ago I mentioned another excellent talk by Moglen also featuring Lawrence Lessig in Q&A on the ethics and future of the free culture movement, which is available in free formats.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Oh the ironing.
The manifesto in it's written form is a good read, if a little to heavily couched in the language of the left.
The manifesto in it's written form is a good read, if a little to heavily couched in the language of the left.
Giss a quick overview. Does he expect software writers to do it for nuffink?
Unravel PFI
Make sure if i have a hair brained scheme that there are the resources/skills in the public sector to carry them out with out always calling in the consultants to fuck it up instead
If senior civil servants/public sector workers insist on having performance bonuses then make sure everyone else has them as well
set fire to Birmingham
look at the taxation system to make it fairer/more equitable - i'd skim the top basically
big changes to the criminal justice system - if crime is falling why is our prison population going up. this PM smells a rat.
more money for services to support offenders coming out of prison, drug users etc
more investment for decent old peoples homes cos we are gonna need em - i'd fund it by the govt taking over the growing equity release scheme market from the private sector
a decent cake shop for every post code
every eighth Wednesday would be National Loot Tesco day
an environmental policy that actually means something
Make sure if i have a hair brained scheme that there are the resources/skills in the public sector to carry them out with out always calling in the consultants to fuck it up instead
If senior civil servants/public sector workers insist on having performance bonuses then make sure everyone else has them as well
set fire to Birmingham
look at the taxation system to make it fairer/more equitable - i'd skim the top basically
big changes to the criminal justice system - if crime is falling why is our prison population going up. this PM smells a rat.
more money for services to support offenders coming out of prison, drug users etc
more investment for decent old peoples homes cos we are gonna need em - i'd fund it by the govt taking over the growing equity release scheme market from the private sector
a decent cake shop for every post code
every eighth Wednesday would be National Loot Tesco day
an environmental policy that actually means something
CyberRose
أرفع الشفرات
1. Tax: What ever the minimum wage is, that = the tax free allowance. Min Wage - £30k = 15% (or maybe 20% if I discover a shortfall); £30k - £50k = 30%; £50k - £100k = 40%; £100k + = 50%
2. Energy/environment - bollox to hippy environmental protesters, I'm building a wall of windturbines round this island and any more I need on hills across the country to get as near to 100% wind energy as I can. These are built by me, and I own them, so Npower etc can fuck off. I sell energy to consumers at a price that reflects the material costs (ie consumers only pay for staff wages and not for profits or oil costs)
3. Invade Saudi Arabia and perform regime change
2. Energy/environment - bollox to hippy environmental protesters, I'm building a wall of windturbines round this island and any more I need on hills across the country to get as near to 100% wind energy as I can. These are built by me, and I own them, so Npower etc can fuck off. I sell energy to consumers at a price that reflects the material costs (ie consumers only pay for staff wages and not for profits or oil costs)
3. Invade Saudi Arabia and perform regime change
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Yeah basically. He's involved with the free software people, linux and that. But thats not expecting a software person to do it for free. It's opposition to flogging his work over and over with very little profit to the original artist.
I don't completely agree. He talks about the modern 'consumer-class' that has come to supersede old notions of Patronage etc.
I have issue with total abolition of intellectual property rights, as I think an artist/writer/proggramer needs some defence against rapacious capital. But then I recall the clause from my Megabowl contract that gave them intellectual property rights over any work-based idea I might have.
Which encouraged me to not bother thinking on work time
There's 2 things i've noticed about this thread-
1) nearly everyone who's answered could run the country better than the supposed professionals.
2) Not one of the smug twats who follow me round these forums nitpicking and bitching have managed to come on and say what THEY would do.
1) nearly everyone who's answered could run the country better than the supposed professionals.
2) Not one of the smug twats who follow me round these forums nitpicking and bitching have managed to come on and say what THEY would do.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
Who follows you around, trev?
dennisr
the acceptable face
as a nitpicking, bitching fecker - I would not like to have power.
Thanks for letting me know - interesting.Yeah basically. He's involved with the free software people, linux and that. But thats not expecting a software person to do it for free. It's opposition to flogging his work over and over with very little profit to the original artist.
I don't completely agree. He talks about the modern 'consumer-class' that has come to supersede old notions of Patronage etc.
I have issue with total abolition of intellectual property rights, as I think an artist/writer/proggramer needs some defence against rapacious capital. But then I recall the clause from my Megabowl contract that gave them intellectual property rights over any work-based idea I might have.
Which encouraged me to not bother thinking on work time
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I toyed with the idea of disbanding the Army Navy and Air force, letting the nuclear deterrent and teh warships and submarines just rust, living more like the Scandinavians and perhaps using the money saved for my education asperations.
But then I thought, if I were actually in power I might like the military in order to project power and influence overseas. After all what is the point in being in power if you cannot project it!
But then I thought, if I were actually in power I might like the military in order to project power and influence overseas. After all what is the point in being in power if you cannot project it!
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Declare energy security to be the most important national security issue and apply the emergency powers act to energy usage.
toughen up laws on corporate manslaughter
disestablish the Church of England
scrap the PFI
make all money earned in the UK liable to taxation by HMRC
Get rid of VAT, make all taxation direct from source.
Restructure income tax, so that for every £1000 you earned over £15K, you pay an extra penny on, up until £65K PA where you'd be paying 50% in salary and cap it there
'Super bonus' types to be taxed retrospectively every 2 years at an individually negotiated rate.
Dissolve the union
Disband Westminster council and make all the tories there homeless and force them to walk around naked during a cold winter.
Decentralise political power from Westminster/London into PR-based regional and local assemblies.
No cross country subsidy - each region pays for it's own services.
Switch money from Trident into a national energy efficiency scheme; invest in offshore wind and the Severn Tidal Bore projects; throw money into the 'Euro Furnace' solar park thing in Tunisia/Libya; aim for energy independence by 2025
Massive investment in a national rail network, with TGVs for the main trunk routes (with a minimum service commitment of 1 stop per hour at any railway station)
toughen up laws on corporate manslaughter
disestablish the Church of England
scrap the PFI
make all money earned in the UK liable to taxation by HMRC
Get rid of VAT, make all taxation direct from source.
Restructure income tax, so that for every £1000 you earned over £15K, you pay an extra penny on, up until £65K PA where you'd be paying 50% in salary and cap it there
'Super bonus' types to be taxed retrospectively every 2 years at an individually negotiated rate.
Dissolve the union
Disband Westminster council and make all the tories there homeless and force them to walk around naked during a cold winter.
Decentralise political power from Westminster/London into PR-based regional and local assemblies.
No cross country subsidy - each region pays for it's own services.
Switch money from Trident into a national energy efficiency scheme; invest in offshore wind and the Severn Tidal Bore projects; throw money into the 'Euro Furnace' solar park thing in Tunisia/Libya; aim for energy independence by 2025
Massive investment in a national rail network, with TGVs for the main trunk routes (with a minimum service commitment of 1 stop per hour at any railway station)
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
epic doublethink fail
Steve Booth
Bourgeois apologist
Balancing it up
It also increases the degree of responsibility within the ward. If the elected representatives try to do something the people don't want, they know where the representatives live.
That's the downside of the idea. It depends on what there is in the individual ward. You'd have to make the wards roughly equal in terms of population, size etc. The point about groups of constituencies banding together to provide, for example a hospital is part of it. There's nothing to stop a wider area banding together, for example to provide a pipeline to supply water for a city or a route for a power cable. The point is that under this scheme, the rich city, if it wants its water or electricity, has to recognise the needs of the local wards. With the veto bit there is no riding roughshod over anybody.
It also increases the degree of responsibility within the ward. If the elected representatives try to do something the people don't want, they know where the representatives live.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Singlethink is the new doublethink!
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