Yeah. Perhaps an inaccurate comparison. But there was a similarity in that I can't think of any two other people so fucked up by fame.
What was the best Michael Jackson song?
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Yeah. Perhaps an inaccurate comparison. But there was a similarity in that I can't think of any two other people so fucked up by fame.
Yeah - it's much like a Hannett/Joy Division thing isn't it...
You're probably right. Madonna is probably more comparable with a band like Blur - really good at latching onto the zeitgeist, but not so much of the intangible...
Blur never latched onto a zeitgeist. If anything they made the zeitgeist that others followed. Same with Madonna.
You think? You think Blur created the baggy zeitgeist with Leisure? OK they probably kickstarted britpop with Modern Life, Park Life and Great Escape, but with their Blur/Thirteen stuff, that was distinctly after-the-fact, being influenced by US lowfi...
blur and madonna are both very polished versions of things that have gone before them
not to say that they both aren't brilliant. but neither of them were pioneers
Leisure wasn't that baggy and actually was one of the few "baggy" albums that was any good. Blur and 13, for me, signified the moment of "post Britpop" when the better bands of the era, came out with very dark and different albums to take them to the next level and distance themselves from the very zeitgeist that they had created. See Pulp's "This Is Hardcore" to tie in with that theory too. Where bands like Oasis just peddled the same Britpoppy stuff.
MJ always took fucking years between albums, 5!!!! after Thriller, then 4 after Bad. A great artist in his prime would never be that slack.
And Albarn's body of work pisses on most artists ever. Most certainly in British terms, where I think he ranks as number one. I'm glad that the years of people deriding him as twat have subsided and he is now becoming more and more revered, with great justification.
MJ always took fucking years between albums, 5!!!! after Thriller, then 4 after Bad. A great artist in his prime would never be that slack.
And Albarn's body of work pisses on most artists ever. Most certainly in British terms, where I think he ranks as number one. I'm glad that the years of people deriding him as twat have subsided and he is now becoming more and more revered, with great justification.
That is bollocks. That same argument can be said of MJ. He was a polished version of Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder etc. And what did MJ pioneer??? Don't say anything that relates to video or dancing either cos that's bollocks.
It seems that people have this mental block and think that MJ is year zero for everything. Wake up people.
I've always rated Albarn.
As for Pulp - for some reason, I never liked their more famous stuff, but I loved This is Hardcore.
As for Pulp - for some reason, I never liked their more famous stuff, but I loved This is Hardcore.
Hardcore is great indeed. I love Sylvia. Better than anything MJ did too.
honestly like, do you really think of blur in the same way that you do michael jackson?
this is a stupid discussion because if you can't see the difference then i'm not going to explain why i see them differently
ivebeenhigh
Well-Known Member
billie jean
the way you make me feel
beat it
.
the way you make me feel
beat it
.
Blur are much better than MJ, by far, without doubt. They wrote all their tunes, have a better and more consistant body of work, better videos, and so on. Much much better, I can't even think what goes on in your mind.
in your opinion blur are better
most of the world haven't heard of blur
that's the difference
Yes, and having most of the world know who you are makes you better. So MJ is great cos he is famous. Nice one.
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Smooth Criminal is my favourite.
Treacle Toes
Time
I like quite a few..
This one is a great track.
This one is a great track.
Treacle Toes
Time
Oh and this one too:
rikwakefield
Born to be Mild
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
I was playing some of his lesser played videos last night. They're all brilliant.
Blood On The Dance Floor
Scream
Leave Me Alone
Another Part Of Me (live)
Don't know if I could chose a favourite track. probably 'Off The Wall'. I like 'P.Y.T'. and 'Beat It' - there are so many good ones. Evidence seems to suggest that his songwritting had peaked ages ago though, with very little on offer from Invincible.
I've got a Megamix at home that's like 10 minutes long. Its aces. Its even got bit of tracks like 'Say Say Say from McCartney mixed into it. I'll dig it out later for DJing with.
Blood On The Dance Floor
Scream
Leave Me Alone
Another Part Of Me (live)
Don't know if I could chose a favourite track. probably 'Off The Wall'. I like 'P.Y.T'. and 'Beat It' - there are so many good ones. Evidence seems to suggest that his songwritting had peaked ages ago though, with very little on offer from Invincible.
I've got a Megamix at home that's like 10 minutes long. Its aces. Its even got bit of tracks like 'Say Say Say from McCartney mixed into it. I'll dig it out later for DJing with.
That's one of my favourites too.
I think it would make a pretty good metal/grunge type song - structurally it's quite Nirvanaish...
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
earth song
human nature
thriller
billy jean
wanna be starting something
don't stop til you get enough
rock with you
oooo, i just can't decide
this tribute mix, however, is awesome:
http://terrenceparker.podomatic.com/
human nature
thriller
billy jean
wanna be starting something
don't stop til you get enough
rock with you
oooo, i just can't decide
this tribute mix, however, is awesome:
http://terrenceparker.podomatic.com/
