What type of person are you?

[Gromit]

I'd find a save route and cycle. Would not cost you anything in fuel each week and you would get all your weekly required exercise in with your commute.

Well i selected the walking route from Multimap and it said the journey would take 4 hours and 28 minutes.

How long would that take on a bike considering its 13 miles steeply up hill all the way?
Factor in that I'm 4 stone over weight and have the lungs of a 80 year old and will have to stop at every pub on the way.

I'm guessing it will take me 5 hours. Making a total journey time of 50 hours a week versus 3 hours 20.

I'll have to get up at 4am every morning and get home at 11:30pm each night. Well until they sack me because I'm not getting anything done in work because I'm too knackered.

I'd be spending all my waking hours on a bike or in work. I might squeeze in 2 minutes of a reading a book before I have to go to bed.

Are you sure you've thought this through?

*rollseyes at the idiot who suggested cycling*

 

[fredfelt]

Well i selected the walking route from Multimap and it said the journey would take 4 hours and 28 minutes.

How long would that take on a bike considering its 13 miles steeply up hill all the way?
Factor in that I'm 4 stone over weight and have the lungs of a 80 year old and will have to stop at every pub on the way.

I'm guessing it will take me 5 hours. Making a total journey time of 50 hours a week versus 3 hours 20.

I'll have to get up at 4am every morning and get home at 11:30pm each night. Well until they sack me because I'm not getting anything done in work because I'm too knackered.

I'd be spending all my waking hours on a bike or in work. I might squeeze in 2 minutes of a reading a book before I have to go to bed.

Are you sure you've thought this through?

*rollseyes at the idiot who suggested cycling*

You asked "what would you choose" and I told you. I did not suggest you cycle.

But to answer your question 13 miles would take about an hour more or less depending on conditions. You would very quickly loose the 4 extra stone you have and your lungs would rapidly improve.

But your are right. With your mind set there is no other option but to take your car.

 

[roryer]

Aren't cities already over crowded and under resourced re:water, sewerage, policing, housing, schooling, etc??

Where do you think your food comes from arsehole?? And how are people in the countryside wasting resources?

The whole of the UK doe NOT live in the SE

No, in some ways our cities are in fact not crowded enough, urban denisification is the best way to make best use limited resources. I ask you to compare the space used to house 100 people living two per McMansion, to a block of flats with communal garden. Denser cities leaves more wild space out of the cities for people to explore. Large suburbs use up more space to no obvious benefit. Your point about schools etc. not my area of expertise.

Our food comes from all over the world, although I would favour a larger dependence on local produce.

I don't see how this has any bearing on the proposition that there are a large number of people living in rural areas that maintain urban convenience and for the most part do not produce food for their main source of income, and yet complain that public transport is not good enough for them to forsake dependence on the car.

If you were to actually work together as a community things like demand responsive public transport could work well to serve rural areas.

Some gripes: When late at night I wish to cycle the hour from Caterbury to Deal which is only about 20 miles, I can't do it safely because of the number of cars on these supposidly rural roads. The buses of course run empty though, while most of the people living in teh area either work in one of the towns, or have retired to the country, which is fine, but don't then expect to shop in the town, shop at the village store, if it is closed then think about why that might be.

The other gripe is that some otherwise idyllic villages appear to be little more than huge car parks.

I would agree that the South East is overcrowded, I would argue for the relocation of central government to Edinburgh to help deal with this.

 

[geminisnake]

I would agree that the South East is overcrowded, I would argue for the relocation of central government to Edinburgh to help deal with this.

You gotta be kidding. Or you have absolutely NO IDEA about how f*cked Edinburgh is getting since the Scottish parliament opened.

I don't KNOW but imo/e Edinburgh has just as many problems as London in it's own way.

Why do things have to be centralised at all? Surely a better way to ease congestion would be spread the work around? That way you cut the number of cars that some people seem to be incapable of doing without, you reduce stress on schools and people might get to live in a reasonable manner thus alleviating the desire to 'escape' to the country.
It works in other countries.

 

[geminisnake]

gemini snake roryers comment did anger me, but i didnt feel the need to attack them quite so badly.

I was trying not to rant. It really annoys me when people who live in cities moan about stuff they haven't experienced in other parts of the country so legislation gets passed which affects the whole damn country.

Why should sheep farmers, foresters, etc. be robbed because of arseholes who think it's cool to drive 4x4s in London?

Sorry but it REALLY annoys me.

 

[Roadkill]

None of the options.

I like cars, I enjoy driving and if I had the spare cash I'd have a classic car for a hobby. But I haven't, and living in London I don't have much need for a car either.

I think we tend to use cars too much and denigrate public transport to favour them. In cities, in particular, cars cause real problems of congestion and pollution, but in less urban areas they're a wonderful thing.

What people like roryer fail to see IMO is that people don't just like cars because of advertising: a lot of people like the engineering, the appearance, the skill needed and exercised in driving well. Like pretty much every other invention, ranging from the watch to the steam engine, cars aren't solely utilitarian.

 

[Cloud]

Everyone on monkeybikes

 

[Groucho]

I don't own a car and never will. If I opted for motorised transport beyond public transport I'd get a motorbike, or a great 'silly car' like a Hillman Imp. But so far I have survived without.