What two English league teams have never played each other?

Discussion in 'football' started by toblerone3, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    By "league" I mean Premiership, Championship and Leagues One and Two.
  2. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    I've tried googling by the way but can't find anything. Obviously there will be some clubs which have recently been promoted into League Two but have a limited history of fixtures which have never played some of the Premiership and Championship clubs. But are there any long established "league clubs" which have never met?
  3. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    I don’t think the issue is with the word league, I think the biggest issue is the definition of the word “played”. I am sure lots of English club’s first teams haven’t played a competitive game against others. For example, I imagine that Arsenal’s first team haven’t played Forest Green, Cheltenham or Morecambe in a competitive game, maybe not even in friendlies. The under-21s are now playing them though. Imagine it might be the same for quite a few of the teams that have been in the top division for a long time that wouldn’t have met teams in the lower leagues.

    Doubt there is a list for all clubs. I imagine you would have to do it club by club to see who has played who. For example, Arsenal’s league opponent list is here (would also need to consider cup games too).

    Arsenal F.C. league record by opponent - Wikipedia
  4. strung out

    strung out (",)

    If we're talking league matches, Arsenal have never played Bristol Rovers, Rochdale and Plymouth, along with loads of other clubs I expect.

    If you exclude cup competitions, it's harder to do...

    Accrington have never played Arsenal, although Accrington are a different club to the one who originally played in the league.
  5. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    So Arsenal (5th in Premier, ranked 5) and
    Accrington (6th in League One, ranked 50)

    ...are the highest ranked teams combined never to have played each other. Combined rank = 55. Are there any more prominent teams who have never played each other in the league?
  6. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    Everton & Hartlepool
  7. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    If you're sticking with Arsenal and sticking with league games, Arsenal have never played Rotherham United, who are currently 18th in the Championship. They have played them in the League Cup though. And also played Rotherham Town in the league.
  8. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    By the OP definition, Hartlepool are no longer a "league" team.
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  9. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    True but the thread premise is woolley.

    As OP says, you could pick a newly promoted/formed side and it's easy.

    Hartlepool have been a league team for a long period yet never played Everton.

    I'm having it :)
  10. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    There is quite a good list of all Everton's opponents in all competitions.

    Everton Results

    The lowest placed team in the league currently they have not played is Accrington Stanley (6th in League 1), although they played the old one. After that it is Fleetwood Town (11th in League One). Looking for more established league clubs, comes to Wycombe Wanderers and then Rochdale, in the league since 1921.
  11. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    Having spent almost 100 years in the bottom two divisions, it is quite likely Rochdale haven't played many of the teams who haven't fallen below the second level. Not sure how many teams fall into that latter group - Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool, Everton, Tottenham, Chelsea, West Ham...
  12. strung out

    strung out (",)

    As far as I can tell, Rochdale have never played a competitive game against Everton, Newcastle, West Brom, Ipswich or West Ham

    There's a list here: Rochdale football club: record v other sides
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  13. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Rochdale played Tottenham this year.

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  14. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

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  15. Maltin

    Maltin Well-Known Member

    I was grouping Spurs as a team who hadn’t played below the second level in the last 100 years, not who hadn’t played Rochdale.
  16. Voley

    Voley Ramoner

    Pre-season friendlies makes it tricky I'd imagine. Even my team Penzance have played Liverpool, Spurs and Leicester at some point.
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  17. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Pre-season friendlies don't count, shorely? League, FA Cup & League Cup. Or Europe, I suppose. Proper matches.
  18. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    MK Dons must have a fair amount of teams they've never met in the English league
  19. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Forest Green V the majority of the 92. Since promotion from the conference was sorted there are loads.

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