What, to you, is the extent of London?

[Guineveretoo]

Voted London postcode. Riddled with inconsistency, but no time to argue the poont.

How are you defining a London postcode, though? As stated earlier on here, everyone with a postcode beginning with CR (for example (not that I am biassed or anything!) lives within the LONDON Borough of Croydon. Is that, therefore, a London postcode?

I suspect that, by your reckoning, it is not, but it is by my reckoning!

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I'd assume by London postcodes, people mean one that uses a direction o the compass at the start of it, rather than an abbreviation of a location. N1, SE22, SW4.

 

[Maggot]

How are you defining a London postcode, though? As stated earlier on here, everyone with a postcode beginning with CR (for example (not that I am biassed or anything!) lives within the LONDON Borough of Croydon. Is that, therefore, a London postcode?

I suspect that, by your reckoning, it is not, but it is by my reckoning!

Are you sure?

From Wiki:

Those places not covered by the existing districts received postcodes as part of the national coding plan, so the postcode areas of "EN" Enfield, "KT" Kingston upon Thames, "HA" Harrow, "UB" Uxbridge", "TW" Twickenham, "SM" Sutton, "CR" Croydon, "DA" Dartford, "BR" Bromley, "RM" Romford and "IG" Ilford cross administrative boundaries and cover parts of neighbouring counties as well as parts of Greater London.

 

[Streathamite]

How are you defining a London postcode, though? As stated earlier on here, everyone with a postcode beginning with CR (for example (not that I am biassed or anything!) lives within the LONDON Borough of Croydon. Is that, therefore, a London postcode?
!

it doesn't though, not quite, most of CR4 is in Merton

 

[Guineveretoo]

Isn't Merton in London?

I don't think any of CR is in Surrey, though?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I can tell you the Surrey Chess League includes Streatham and Brixton.

 

[ethnicprayer]

For census purposes, London is defied by the postcodes. All areas within a London borough, but without a proper London postcode, are classed as Greater London.

For example: The 1991 census gives London's population as 2.8 million, but Greater London's as 7million.

 

[Maggot]

Isn't Merton in London?

I don't think any of CR is in Surrey, though?

You're wrong! Caterham and Warlingham have CR postcodes and are both in Surrey.

 

[Guineveretoo]

For census purposes, London is defied by the postcodes. All areas within a London borough, but without a proper London postcode, are classed as Greater London.

For example: The 1991 census gives London's population as 2.8 million, but Greater London's as 7million.

I really can't understand what you are saying here...

The census doesn't try to define London. It shows population by Parish, by Borough, by Parliamentary Constituency, by local authority boundary, by postal area...

For historical comparison reasons, it shows population by the area of London which was once covered by the London County, too.

Here is the relevant paragraph from the Census Website:

London; Greater London, Inner and Outer London, London borough
Greater London is the area of the Greater London Council set up in 1966, and abolished in 1986, but having some strategic functions and retained for the presentation of statistics.

It comprises of 32 London boroughs which administer local government in Greater London, with a status similar to metropolitan districts, together with the Corporation of the City of London which is treated as a borough for statistical purposes.

Inner London is the part of Greater London which formed the former London County from 1889 to 1965, and comprises of the City of London and thirteen boroughs. The remaining nineteen boroughs form Outer London, and the Inner/Outer division is frequently used for statistical purposes.

 

[ethnicprayer]

I really can't understand what you are saying here...

The census doesn't try to define London. It shows population by Parish, by Borough, by Parliamentary Constituency, by local authority boundary, by postal area...

For historical comparison reasons, it shows population by the area of London which was once covered by the London County, too.

Here is the relevant paragraph from the Census Website:

What I mean is that London, the postal town, only includes those areas with an N, NW, SE, SW, E, W, EC, or WC postcode. All other postcodes, such as BR or CR, come from different postal towns. Bromley and Croydon are, of course, part of greater London, but that's not the same as being part of London.

It's like Greater Manchester, nobody thinks that Bolton and Stockport, for example, are part of Manchester, even though they are part of Greater Manchester.

I have the encyclopedia of London, and, according to it, the population of London and the population of greater London are two different things.

 

[tim]

Croydon is one of the suburbs which is trying to claim that it has a distinct identity, which is why the Council keep applying for City status!

Once the fast line to St Pancaras is open Paris will be the new Croydon.

 

[PacificOcean]

What am I then?

I have a funky phone code (01992), I am in Zone 6, My postal district is Middlesex, My postcode is EN3, My borough is Enfield, yet the Essex border is the other side of my path.

Surely I am London?

 

[ELO]

Just to give the outsiders view, round here, most people would say the M25.

Historically it (the M25) couldn't be, since it's only been there twenty years or so, but of course half the point of asking is that definitions and experiences of London change.

It may be recent, but most people in the midlands and beyond talk about 'inside the M25' and 'outside the M25', it very much forms the borders of what most middle/northerners percive as 'London', even though few of them would venture beyond zone 1/2 on a day trip.

The other expression used is 'North of Watford' , as in 'people in whitehall don't understand life north of watford', which would certainly imply they think Watford is part of London , but doesn't give a southern boundry.

This thread could run forever..................there is really no clear answer. I think as you get further away, London gets 'bigger', I'm guessing most of you guys who live in London don't consider Watford as part of your city.

 

[Mation]

It's only London if it's in zones 1-3.5. I am forced to include that last half zone now that I sort of live in zone *COUGH*3.