What stupid shit has Trump done today?

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by Yossarian, May 1, 2017.

  1. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

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  2. Buckaroo

    Buckaroo Donkey piss and tractors

    Russia Russia Russia! God bless Kelly Anne!

     
  3. TheHoodedClaw

    TheHoodedClaw acknowledging ur soup leg

    Stolen from Stephen King's twitter

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  4. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    As with Brexit, the bastards are all at each others' throats. What's not to like, as they say these days?
     
  5. ruffneck23

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  6. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    Hope he does, and nothing "untoward" happens to him in the meantime.

    Wasn't surprised by this, as a lot of what the Trump administration does is symbolic - like Executive Orders they know won't fly, but they send a strong message of "don't fuck with us".

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  7. ruffneck23

    ruffneck23 front left

    This had crossed my mind
     
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  8. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    Vlad didn't have to "trust" TTT with anything, just give him the opportunity to dig himself into a hole of greed and corruption that can at some future point be used as leverage, doesn't have to be a complicated web of intrigue and treason, just give him the the opportunity to do 'deals' that will appeal to his narcisstic ego, but that in the cold light of day would be politically damaging.
     
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  9. existentialist

    existentialist Girly swot

    Well, yes. Only this shit tends to come with a lot of collateral damage.
     
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  10. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    We'll await with bated breath the moment when this kind of shit doesn't.
     
  11. stockwelljonny

    stockwelljonny Wait here I have gone to get help

    Putin is about promoting division, destabilisation and confusion surely? Trust isn't the issue or objective.
     
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  12. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    Yes, only Putin has ever done this.
     
  13. stockwelljonny

    stockwelljonny Wait here I have gone to get help

    Yes of course but was replying to comment about Putin:
    I have to say that I'm still sceptical about the hidden Russian hand - whatever else Vlad P. may be, he's not a fool, and only a fool would put any trust in The Dong
     
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  14. existentialist

    existentialist Girly swot

    I am pretty sure that the phrase "useful idiot" ("polezniye duraki") is of Russian origin.

    As is the word "maskirovka" (roughly translates as "deception", but is in reality usually "deception of such complexity that nobody believes anyone would actually do that").
     
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  15. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    Why do you assume both positions aren't possible?
    He's as thick as pig Shyte but thinks his base is even thicker.
     
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  16. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    And so what if there is an 'hidden Russian hand' here? It's nothing, and nor is what the Russians are doing in Ukraine, or anywhere else, compared to the bloodbaths the US has financed and supported across the world for decades, and will continue to do.
     
  17. Ming

    Ming Massive prawns

    Anyone heard of Robert Mercer? He's high on my radar at the moment. He's deeply involved in this shit. Steve Bannon, Brexit, Trump (through Cambridge Analytica), Breitbart news, Nigel Farage, etc.
    Robert Mercer (businessman) - Wikipedia
     
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  18. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    He isn't the owner, the danger, is that he's deluded enough to think he is.
     
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  19. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    Every country does it, but usually to the detriment of countries they regard as potentially hostile, only TTT seems to be doing it to his own country!?
     
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  20. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    Don't forger the Koch brothers:D
     
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  21. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    You reckon?
     
  22. Ming

    Ming Massive prawns

    I sometimes feel a bit conflicted about whether the Citizens United verdict just made obvious what was going on anyway. Money buying influence. I suppose it makes it easier so its a bad thing (don't forget about Sheldon :D). Seriously though this Mercer guy (due to his ownership of Cambridge Analytica which influenced both Brexit and Trump (and he is involved in Breibart News) is deeply involved in this shift to authoritarian nationalism on both sides of the Atlantic. Scary dude. Take a look at him.
     
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  23. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    Aye, I do. We are seeing a lot of it in the current round of 'non negotiating' statements coming from the EU.
    But that's just an example, TTT seems to be hell bent on destroying any semblance of bipartisan governance left in the US.
     
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  24. Raheem

    Raheem Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's always been my justification for selling smack to schoolkids. Luckily, I've never had to use it on anyone who's not an idiot.
     
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  25. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the supercilious smirk while you're dealing.
     
  26. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    DP
     
  27. stockwelljonny

    stockwelljonny Wait here I have gone to get help

    Is that how it works? It's all relative?
     
  28. Raheem

    Raheem Well-Known Member

    There's nur way I'd smirk any of my own supply.
     
  29. RD2003

    RD2003 Well-Known Member

    'We' should all go after Russia and Putin. Then, when that's been achieved, just maybe the world will have learned its lesson, and all such shit will cease.
    Happy ever after etc.
     
  30. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    I think many people have been poo pooing the idea that there is any Russian connection with the election or the Trump administration, and I don't mean just his loyal followers. I think it's where they've been looking at it to narrowly - that "intervention" means "trying to take over the country" as was the fear back in the old cold war days. The Russian government wants an American Government that will, at best, make choices that are favourable to Russia (e.g. dropping sanctions, doing business that will further enrich the wealthiest, etc.). At worst, they'll just poke their beaks out and let Russia do what it wants wherever they want to. I agree with what many have said here - there already seems plenty evidence of involvement that tracks back to Putin, but I think the purpose has been to sow instability, mistrust, confusion and exhaustion among Americans, and legislators, so they are more likely to give Russia a pass and less like to pull them up on anything.

    I have no idea whether Trump is the clever man playing the fool to get what he wants or if he really is a fool. It's not all about him, anyhow. There are plenty in his cabinet and wider circle who no doubt see it in their own financial interests to lift sanctions and forge lucrative links with Russian leaders and oligarchs. It's not really an arm wrestle over ideology US-Soviet relationships appeared to be say 30 or 40 years ago. These days, it's all about exploitation and wealth accumulation - the kleptocracy. That's why I tend to speak of his administration, or the administration and GOP congress. Every single one that hasn't stood against him when they had a chance is complicit in what's happening. Some are more than that - instigators and agents, driven by greed.

    I think there are too many Americans who are still clinging to the idea of American exceptionalism - the "this can't really be happening here," like the frog in the stewpot that hasn't realised the water is getting hotter and hotter. Then there are the folk who backed trump because they like his policies (e.g. banning abortion, reversing rights for women and minority groups, halting immigration, etc.) They probably have reservations, but are able to push those aside if they think they can get what they want.

    As authoritarian regimes traditionally do, this one is toiling to remove as many opportunities for holding the administration and congress to account. The not so veiled threats also send a clear message to anyone who thinks they can stand in the way. It won't just be America that suffers if the nation's decline continues like this.

    So, I'm pretty gloomy on this at the moment.
     

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