What stupid shit has Trump done today?

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by Yossarian, May 1, 2017.

  1. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    It isn't but, if you read the post, there should be no need to do so as everyone should be treated equally.
    Trump is creating wider divisions when people really should be coming together for the common good.
    If you create a new section of a population by importing slaves, refuse to treat them as humans for the next few hundred years, then refuse education on a par with everyone else and dump them in places no one else wants to live, of course you're going to have specific issues with the downtrodden group.

    There isn't a black unemployment issue, there's a group of people who have been treated badly for centuries issue.
    Resolve that historical and present day idiocy and the black unemployment problem goes away.
     
  2. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    No, a little older AND my reading comprehension skills are really quite good. I didn't say it was racist to count unemployment by group, just there should be no need to do so.
    Sad as it is, Trump and his daft pals are making a bad situation for worse by creating more division, hate and mistrust.
     
  3. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    That's one of the reasons Trump is bad news, not the only one but it's a excellent reason for wanting him impeached as quickly as possible.
     
  4. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    No, you were responding to what you thought I said.
    Perhaps I could invite you to read it again and reevaluate your position.
     
  5. maomao

    maomao 四月她爹

    Indeed.
     
  6. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    Come on, read the post again without prejudices and you'll see it isn't what you think it is.
     
  7. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    It's classic Trumpery: Black people are trapped in poverty because of systemic discrimination going back to when their ancestors were brought to America as slaves: Fake news!

    The black unemployment rate has gone down along with a general fall in the unemployment rate, but is still higher than the unemployment rate for other races: Trump is a genius and black people are ungrateful.
     
  8. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    It wasn't particularly that bit that caused me to hope your well-meaning simpleness was maybe not a permanent state of affairs.
     
  9. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

  10. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    Perhaps you could explain why wanting all people to be treated fairly and equally is simple minded.
    I fully realise it's a beautiful but impossible dream at this point in time, but the reason I gave for the existence of a black unemployment figure is just as accurate regardless of my dream, or maybe MLK's dream.

    He had a dream, and it was a very nice dream - or was that well-meaning simpleness as well?



    As a note, MLK's crowd seems to be bigger than Trump's :D
     
  11. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    :rolleyes: I shouldn't have spoken because honestly do not want to get into the subject at all but Don, the bit i particularly noted of your recent posts was "i don't have a problem with Jews even the Israeli ones but..'
    In what other context can you imagine feeling the need to say this before making the routine criticisms of 'mass murder' against a government / military?
     
  12. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    Just because the Israel government has a lot of nasty people in it doesn't means all Jews are bad, just as all Americans aren't bad because Trump is a bastard and all Brits aren't bad because Blair and Thatcher were twats.
    No one can blame the whole for the actions of a few, but Trump manages.
     
  13. Don Troooomp

    Don Troooomp Well-Known Member

    Okay, I admit it, I'm a simple minded fool for wanting the impossible but, if I may, I'll remain a simple minded fool rather than become a bastard like Trump or a pessimistic twat with no vision or hope.

    Forgive me if you can, attack me if you can't, but I'm sticking to love over hate. :)
     
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  14. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

  15. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    Can't agree with you that race doesn't matter, or is a side-issue. White folk both on the far right and far left in American politics also say it's a secondary issue, if it's an issue at all. However, the US was founded on genocide of the native population and importation and enslavement of a group of people of a specific race, without whom the economy would never have succeeded. It gave birth to a different kind of institutional racism than you have in the UK and other European nations - not better or worse, but perhaps more pervasive as it was woven into the fabric of the nation. The legacy is very much alive today. Don't want to detract from the thread too much, but I encourage you to watch Ava DuVernay's 13th. Meticulously researched, it weaves together the threads of slavery, reconstruction, convict labour, Jim Crow, lynching right up to the drug wars and prison industrial complex.

    Even when I was in school, during that brief period of quite liberal "experimental" education (we learned metrics even!), the genocide of native Americans and enslavement of African Americans were completely whitewashed. Racism and anti-semitism towards other immigrants didn't even get a foot note.
     
  16. TomUS

    TomUS non-resident

    I wouldn't compare the two. We'll hopefully soon know weather the Russia stuff is conspiracy theory or a very real problem when Mueller completes his work.....unless Trump finds a way to fire him. Trump and co are obviously trying very hard to hinder the investigation which makes me think there is something real there.
     
  17. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    It seems only on Urban and only for Americans, particularly who grew up in working class communities, who don't believe lifelong white blue collar Republicans are on the cusp of joining a Socialist Revolution. :rolleyes:

    On Urban, the only people really qualified to talk about America are British folks with better academic qualifications than mine, who've talked to some American socialists online so really know the score, maybe had a drink with a couple in a New York on their last weekend break. Perhaps they've never actually been to the US, let alone spent time in a working class, rural community. But their ideology is so perfectly pure, and that's all that's important, dontcha know! ;)

    Edit: Some of the people are wonderful and friendly. Some are absolute assholes. Sadly, my family live surrounded by the latter. :(
     
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  18. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    - double post, soz.
     
  19. spring-peeper

    spring-peeper Well-Known Member

    Trump, at CBP facility in Virginia, considers cutting aid to countries letting drugs into U.S.
     
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  20. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    This dude was genuinely running to be the Republican candidate for the Michigan State Senate, until he dropped out a couple days ago, due to "pressure" from social media. He probably still has no idea why.

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  21. spring-peeper

    spring-peeper Well-Known Member


    Three cheers for social media :D
     
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  22. seventh bullet

    seventh bullet red mullet

    Ever spent time in a working class Russian community?
     
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  23. yield

    yield zero

    Don't you be using facts. Anyone can prove anything with facts.
     
  24. yield

    yield zero

    My only experience is rural eastern californina. No not socialists.

    I've no degree self taught economics nerd. You're talking shit.
     
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  25. maomao

    maomao 四月她爹

    I'm from a working class mixed-race family (I'm white) and I lived in the US as a child. I have a bachelors degree but I can't afford a city break in Birmingham let alone New York. Stop lying about people and address your own prejudices.
     
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  26. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    Trump is clearly guilty of employing sketchy idiots like Manafort - and of dropping Don Jr. on his head too many times as a child - but I don't know if they're going to uncover too much Russia stuff beyond that, it sounds like Mueller's real target now is an obstruction of justice case, and Trump looks extremely guilty of that.

    I guess a parallel might be if a special counsel had been appointed to investigate Obama's alleged Kenyan connections, and Obama had responded by turning into Richard Nixon.
     
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  27. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

    the bible and dna? crazy stuff

    Also...he should be watched.
     
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  28. Tankus

    Tankus living someone else's dream.

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  29. NoXion

    NoXion Eat leaden death, demon...

    For your information, I don't even have any GCSEs. Who the hell said that academic qualifications mattered? Only you.
     
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  30. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    Then, there's this guy, running as a Republican candidate for the Illinois General Assembly. He won't win, but the fact he's not being disavowed by the GOP is well :hmm:.

    Thing is, if he ran downstate, he'd have a good chance of winning. :(

    Holocaust denier poised to claim GOP nomination in Illinois race for Congress
     

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