What should Iran do?

[Streathamite]

tbh, I'm pretty friendly with most people known to my (extended) family as well as the Bushes knew the Bin ladens.
FWIW....

 

[spring-peeper]

"Tehran insists that the mistake be unforgivable because CNN chief correspondent to Tehran Christian Amanpour, who was present at the conference, was born in Iran and knows the Persian language well."

If CNN had deliberately mis-translated the arabic speech into english then that would be quite a serious matter.

If you go to the CNN version of the story, they do really seem to be sorry and made it quite clear that they will NEVER use that translator again. It was a mistake and mistakes happen.

I just thought that it was amusing to see Irans using of media is as tool in the pr battle. Banning a media outlet such as CNN over something like is, well, cute.

 

[gosub]

If you go to the CNN version of the story, they do really seem to be sorry and made it quite clear that they will NEVER use that translator again. It was a mistake and mistakes happen.

I just thought that it was amusing to see Irans using of media is as tool in the pr battle. Banning a media outlet such as CNN over something like is, well, cute.

I'd say it was more sensible than "cute". If you started walking around an oil terminal in this country having a fag, kicking you out wouldn't really be a PR exercise

 

[TAE]

Currently only 5 (10%) have voted against nuclear power. I'm surprised.

 

[friedaweed]

Currently only 5 (10%) have voted against nuclear power. I'm surprised.

I suppose many now see it as the only defense a small oil rich nation might have against American hegemony. Frightening admittedly but i suppose in the present state of affairs it's better they have it than not.

 

[oi2002]

Israel by direct strike almost immediately. Much of Europe soon thereafter. The United States by terrorist infiltration. Very risky. Some will sit idly by and obfuscate. The United States will act. It is our culture.

Now please do grow up. #1 is accurate, Israel would be threatened. Israel lives under existential threat, resented colonialist generally do, I'm quiet sympathetic being a resented colonialist myself.

Israel is a tiny fuckwitted country but also a genine nuclear power on a par with France that will have at least one nuclear submarine able to obliterate all Iranian population centers before Iran could ever retaliate. The Israelis are at risk and are (fortunately for them) cunts by nature, they won't hesitate to implement a final solution to the Iranian question.

Europe lived with being the prposed battleground for both the USSR's and the USA'a arsenals for half a century. It has been far more threatened by Pakistans Islamic Bomb program and Iran offers less threat than a Jihadi lovink Pakistan. Iran is a nuclear attack risk to the UK on a level with France.

In the US there almost certainly will be more 9-11s but its a vanishingly small possibilty that an Iranian nuke will find its way to the US. There are plenty of still unguarded targets that can provide the same effect for a Jihadi team.

The likes of John Bolton have done their best to ensure further proliferation and that there is good chance a unsecured Russian Nuke might make it over the pond. The other big risk for the US is DC failing to pay its tithe to the Pakistani military. They might lose the bap and load one onto a Jihadi executive jet bound for DC.

 

[gosub]

I suppose many now see it as the only defense a small oil rich nation might have against American hegemony. Frightening admittedly but i suppose in the present state of affairs it's better they have it than not.

I don't know how ambiguous you were trying to be but in the main I agree with you, and while I really don't consider myself anywhere near (an/THE) Iranian perspective, I think that fosssil fuels are a finite resource and if fossil fuel 'rich' nations don't take a lead in addressing that it won't be addressed.

 

[TeeJay]

I suppose many now see it as the only defense a small oil rich nation might have against American hegemony.

The truth is that Iran are far more frightened of an unstable Iraq or Afghanistan (especially a few years down the line when the US et al have all gone home) but slagging off Israel and the US goes down far better with the wider public.

 

[rogue yam]

The Israelis are...cunts by nature

If you were me you'd probably get in a lot of trouble for having said this around here. At least you would have if you had said it about someone other than the you-know-whos.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

You-know-whos. Right. Cute terminology. I think Yammy has forgotten he isn't on free republic, where cute racial slurs are a thrilling game played by pig-fuckin rednecks from every end of the far right jackboot-licking spectrum

 

[rogue yam]

I think Yammy has forgotten he isn't on free republic, where cute racial slurs are a thrilling game played by pig-fuckin rednecks from every end of the far right jackboot-licking spectrum

You have simply lost the plot here, mate.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Excessive reference to yammie's presumed sexual preferences deleted.

 

[nino_savatte]

You have simply lost the plot here, mate.

Has he? You see, yammie, I don't think he has and when you possess the intellectual capacity of a speak-your-weight machine, it's no wonder you lash out with insults like this.

 

[TAE]

The Israelis are at risk and are (fortunately for them) cunts by nature, they won't hesitate to implement a final solution to the Iranian question.

The Israelis are...cunts by nature

If you were me you'd probably get in a lot of trouble for having said this around here. At least you would have if you had said it about someone other than the you-know-whos.

And removing his words "fortunately for them" smacks of mis-quoting.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It doesn't to me.

If certain posters think they're going to get me to ban rogue yam by flaming and reporting posts for no reason they don't know me at all. Because it just pisses me off.

If someone is temp banned and they come back and start up again, they get permabanned. If they are temp banned and they come back and don't start up again that means it's worked. That is the point of temp bans.

Are we all quite clear on this?

 

[Hanfstaengl]

It doesn't to me.

If certain posters think they're going to get me to ban rogue yam by flaming and reporting posts for no reason they don't know me at all. Because it just pisses me off.

If someone is temp banned and they come back and start up again, they get permabanned. If they are temp banned and they come back and don't start up again that means it's worked. That is the point of temp bans.

Are we all quite clear on this?

yes

 

[TAE]

It doesn't to me.

You don't think it changed the meaning of the sentence from "israelis are well hard" to "israelis are ebil" ?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Very slightly. Not enough to warrant reporting.

edit: obviously, if oi2002 provides a fuller explanation of the meaning of the remark for the benefit of our transatlantic cousin, which gets ignored and misrepresented in future, that is a different matter

 

[TAE]

Granted - which is why I didn't.

 

[editor]

<removed as FM has dealt with it>

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I think there are some fundamental problems with the non-proliferation treaty. Under the terms of the treaty, Iran is perfectly entitled to run a nuclear fuel cycle for civilian purposes. The nuclear armed powers, in return for non-proliferation, are obliged to scale down their nuclear arsenal, instead of which Tony Blair wants to buy a new generation of US built nuclear subs. If anyone is in violation of the treaty terms it's not Iran.

The problem with a civilian nuclear fuel cycle is that it gets you a fair part of the way towards producing weapons grade material. Essentially just a purer version of the the civilian stuff.

What the US is trying to do at present is bully Iran, on the basis of no legal authority from the treaty, into dropping its civilian fuel cycle. As far as the IAEA are concerned (last I checked) Iran shows no real evidence of having a nuclear weapons programme, and they were right about Iraq's lack of nuclear weapons, so I'd tend to trust them over the US and UK governments on this.