What really matters?

[Carousel]

What does this mean? And where does the accusation lead? And will I be interested?

It means you have some arbitrary beliefs that you just feel and their “truth” is important to your self esteem. When you’re forced to confront their arbitrary nature, you feel attacked. This is why small political factions can never really understand why they are small, no matter how many times they ask the question and get the answer.

 

[danny la rouge]

The point is something like this: Carousel was in Class War. Carousel left Class War not because he had the insight to recognise it couldn't possibly go anywhere, but because he felt personally let down by its inevitable lack of progress.

After a bit of a rethink he got on the career ladder which will one day take him to the dizzy heights of local authority middle management and started reading Nietzsche. Although this gave him some compensatory illusions and a whole new store of masturbation fantasies, he never forgot or forgave the way his former comrades let him down, so he decided to waste their time, and that of anybody else daft enough to listen by embroiling them all in a never-ending non-debate on the internet.

Oh.

I have to admit this thread is the first I was aware of the poster.

 

[xes]

What does this mean? And where does the accusation lead? And will I be interested?

all this, and more, after this short word from our sponsers....

 

[danny la rouge]

It means you have some arbitrary beliefs that you just feel and their “truth” is important to your self esteem. When you’re forced to confront their arbitrary nature, you feel attacked. This is why small political factions can never really understand why they are small.

What are you on about? Seriously, what am I not confronting?

 

[revol68]

Why would you assume that the beliefs are simply arbitrary? Isn't it odd how white kids don't tend to embrace Islamic politics or how managers don't tend to support striking workers?

 

[LLETSA]

It means you have some arbitrary beliefs that you just feel and their “truth” is important to your self esteem. When you’re forced to confront their arbitrary nature, you feel attacked. This is why small political factions can never really understand why they are small, no matter how many times they ask the question and get the answer.

Your beliefs are yet more abitrary, however.

 

[Carousel]

tell me how disgust at seeing the best days of your life thrown away in wage labour could not be historically contingent?

Hardly anyone feels sullied by exchange.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Oh.

I have to admit this thread is the first I was aware of the poster.

He's always like this.

 

[JimW]

It means you have some arbitrary beliefs that you just feel and their “truth” is important to your self esteem. When you’re forced to confront their arbitrary nature, you feel attacked. This is why small political factions can never really understand why they are small, no matter how many times they ask the question and get the answer.

Well, everyone's going to be a bit attached to their opinions, but he's built that up into some sort of astrology - all of a piece with the various late Victorians he studied under recreating Christian morality and notions of the self even as they thought they were rejecting them. Waste of effort really, and it didn't seem to bring him much joy.

 

[Pickman's model]

don't feed the fuckwitted troll

 

[Pickman's model]

Hardly anyone feels sullied by exchange.

i wonder how many posters here feel sullied after an exchange with you. and that's just online contact! must be worse offline

 

[LLETSA]

This is why small political factions can never really understand why they are small, no matter how many times they ask the question and get the answer.

Some of the biggest political factions in history held the beliefs you purport to undermine, whereas your apparent beliefs have usually been the preserve of lonely fantasists.

 

[JimW]

don't feed the fuckwitted troll

Oh he's a bright lad. Tendency to go round in circles but he advertises that clearly enough with his username. Horribly wrong about everything too, of course.

 

[Carousel]

Why would you assume that the beliefs are simply arbitrary? Isn't it odd how white kids don't tend to embrace Islamic politics or how managers don't tend to support striking workers?

Social proof is the best persuasion. We all hold arbitrary beliefs, some are more minority than others. Perhaps there are 16 types of socio-political personality, separate but similar to the Myers-Briggs individual personality types. I’m an ENTJ in case anyone’s wondering.

whereas your apparent beliefs have usually been the preserve of lonely fantasists.

1.8% of the population at the most I'd have thought.

don't feed the fuckwitted troll

Character armour.

 

[LLETSA]

Social proof is the best persuasion. We all hold arbitrary beliefs, some are more minority than others. Perhaps there are 16 types of socio-political personality, separate but similar to the Myers-Briggs individual personality types. I’m a TWAT in case anyone’s wondering.

.

 

[danny la rouge]

Myers-Briggs

Ah. Now I see why I'm struggling with this miasma.

 

[revol68]

Hardly anyone feels sullied by exchange.

don't mask the wage system behind simple exchange, it's terribly unbecoming.

nor would the fact hardly anyone feels sullied by it have any bearing on it's historical contingency.

 

[Carousel]

I’m a TWAT in case anyone’s wondering

Yeah LLETSA. What are you defending with your abuse? Christian virtues.

 

[Carousel]

nor would the fact hardly anyone feels sullied by it have any bearing on it's historical contingency.

So tell us how an emotion becomes historically contingent. Some core component of the species-being is it?

 

[revol68]

So tell us how an emotion becomes historically contingent. Some core component of the species-being is it?

well the fact that an emotion arises towards something and this thing tends to be historically contingent.

Or do you imagine there is an innate and discrete emotion called 'disgust at wage labour'?

 

[LLETSA]

Yeah LLETSA. What are you defending with your abuse? Christian virtues.

No, nothing.

How many times have you wheeled out the Christian values non-insult now? You desperately need some new material. Have you ever thought about contacting a professional scriptwriter? I hear Graham Garden's always on the lookout for work.

 

[JimW]

It's done! We have contact. We can back out the thread now and leave these pair at it like wordy ferrets in a sack.

 

[Carousel]

Or do you imagine there is an innate and discrete emotion called 'disgust at wage labour'?

In so far as there's an innate and discrete emotional state called 'inequality aversion', which varies widely in degree across the population.

 

[LLETSA]

It's done! We have contact. We can back out the thread now and leave these pair at it like wordy ferrets in a sack.

One day all threads on Urban 75 will consist solely of Revol and Carousel, the Chuckle Brothers of anarchotoss.

 

[LLETSA]

In so far as there's an innate and discrete emotional state called 'inequality aversion', which varies widely in degree across the population.

So what?

 

[revol68]

In so far as there's an innate and discrete emotional state called 'inequality aversion', which varies widely in degree across the population.

well no there isn't, there is an emotional state of disgust, tinged with anger, I'd suppouse and depending on your outlook upon capitalism it might well provoke it.

 

[Carousel]

So what?

So what matters?

well no there isn't, there is an emotional state of disgust, tinged with anger, I'd suppouse and depending on your outlook upon capitalism it might well provoke it.

Classic panto. Oh yes there is. Hey, do you accept you can inherit aspects of political ideology like you can inherit bushy eyebrows?

 

[danny la rouge]

In so far as there's an innate and discrete emotional state called 'inequality aversion',

Yes, there pretty much is. We can look at the studies in humans, other primates, and other mammals.

Now, to return to one of my (unanswered) questions to you, what is it you think I'm not confronting?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So what matters?

Love.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hey, do you accept you can inherit aspects of political ideology like you can inherit bushy eyebrows?

you mean we should blame your forebears for your fuckwittery?