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What prospects for a philosophy graduate?

this is just plain bullying....i am not taking this crap and theres like four people now on this thread giving me grief - i'm off....

roscommon, in the west of ireland littlemiss.......say what you guys want, i put up with grief from all you lot all the time anyway....christ i used to like you mrsmagpie...fuckin hell..bye bye
 
You're confusing me with someone who gives a flying fuck about your opinion or approval.....hopefully you'll read things more carefully in future and give up the posting diarrhoea for more careful and considered words.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
You're confusing me with someone who gives a flying fuck about your opinion or approval.....hopefully you'll read things more carefully in future and give up the posting diarrhoea for more careful and considered words.
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naw, i aint in the slightest and i couldnt care less, honestly. i never attacked you though.... i give up with you right now... i'm being polite here, u sound proper livid.....
 
I'm not livid, I was just hoping after upsetting people after your apprenticeship of being a thoughtless pain you'd grasp a concept or two about life and your hurtful effect on others with your carelessness and general lack of awareness. In the end it's down to you. No one can teach you the basics about getting along with the rest of the world. You have to use your brain and think about other people, not your (hollow guffaw) peerless prose and the sound of your own voice.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
I'm not livid, I was just hoping after upsetting people after your apprenticeship of being a thoughtless pain you'd grasp a concept or two about life and your hurtful effect on others with your carelessness and general lack of awareness. In the end it's down to you. No one can teach you the basics about getting along with the rest of the world. You have to use your brain and think about other people, not your ( hollow guffaw) peerless prose and the sound of your own voice.
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ah ur being a bit dramatic with the apprenticeship reference maybe....not that it matters. people on here seem to either love me or hate me, but thats okay.....if you maybe have a read of some of my prose you'll see it isnt always peerless, and prose certainly doesnt have to always be insightful....some of the prose isnt mine either, half the time its stuff i have read, but thats cool, cos people rarely notice....:cool:

i dont come for debate here either, but i will try and engage more and read things slower so i take on board that point yeh.

back to thread discussion!
 
Actually that's not quite true, after you really hurt people I felt I'd give you a few home truths when you next made a stupid gaffe, and you obliged me.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
Philosophy, innit?
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Yup.

I've heard quite a few employers slam Business Studies (or whatever) degrees too, and prefer traditional subjects, including philosophy. Your degree certainly wouldn't hold you back in getting a job in the civil service, other local authority work, Human Resources, most office jobs if your organisational skills and computing skills are OK. A lot of these fields require extra professional qualifications to get ahead, but you do them on the job.

Someone else mentioned work experience, and I'll second that as probably even more important than the degree subject.

If you can think of some job you might want to do, then try to get a couple of weeks interning somewhere in that area, or longer if you can afford it, of course. Having good references from ordinary uni jobs does help too (they show you're reliable and so on), but what they really want is experience in, and commitment to, their field of work.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
Actually that's not quite true, after you really hurt people I felt I'd give you a few home truths when you next made a stupid gaffe, and you obliged me.
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twas a mistake for which i apologised - and to be fair i get really personal digs and character assassinations made against me and my thoughts and the way i write and even my taste in music by lots of posters every day. Every single thing dude. Does it hurt - occasionally, and am i goinna take any of it personally? no. reprimand some other posters now for their stupid gaffes cos i aint the only one around here making them, and please drop it now, just leave me.
 
scifisam said:
Yup.

I've heard quite a few employers slam Business Studies (or whatever) degrees too, and prefer traditional subjects, including philosophy. Your degree certainly wouldn't hold you back in getting a job in the civil service, other local authority work, Human Resources, most office jobs if your organisational skills and computing skills are OK. A lot of these fields require extra professional qualifications to get ahead, but you do them on the job.

Someone else mentioned work experience, and I'll second that as probably even more important than the degree subject.

If you can think of some job you might want to do, then try to get a couple of weeks interning somewhere in that area, or longer if you can afford it, of course. Having good references from ordinary uni jobs does help too (they show you're reliable and so on), but what they really want is experience in, and commitment to, their field of work.
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...and if they don't like what you can do, fix them with a gimlet glare and shout "KANT" at them, turn on your heel and depart with dignity :D
 
An undergraduate degree in business does not mean much. To many employers, it shows a boring persona. The philosophy graduate is far more interesting. There is no reason why you can't get a job with Goldman Sachs, McKinsey or Permira with a philosophy degree providing you are at a good university and get a top grade.

Just because someone has an arts or engineering degree, doesn't mean they won't be just as good at business. I was always dumbstruck by how many of the graduates in banking with undergraduate business degrees (very common in America amongst graduates in banking) really weren't very entrepreneurial at all. They had done business studies to get a job at a bank and earn as much money as possible.

After your degree, if you were to want to get on in business, you can always do an MBA, although it is best to get a few years work experience before going to business school in order to get into a good one.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
...and if they don't like what you can do, fix them with a gimlet glare and shout "KANT" at them, turn on your heel and depart with dignity :D
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PMSL what you been drinking MrsM?? I want some of what youre on
 
I'm starting to think it doesn't matter what degree you do at university, just so long as you present yourself well and do a good interview.

I did engineering at uni and the institution I belong to later published an article stating that engineering undergraduates use at best 10% of the stuff they've been taught at uni in later working life.

red rose, if it helps, I must have done about a dozen interviews for graduate engineering placements in my final year with the same expected result as you, and still didn't get a job.
 
...it's got to be better than radio. I've got details in front of me of a management position (head of news, no less) to suit a graduate with twelve months' experience. Have a guess at the salary. £20k? £15k?

No, £12k. :rolleyes:

I should start my own thread... !
 
I'm a phil/lit graduate. In my case it took a postgrad in publishing studies to get me into my chosen field, but then publishing is a very tough one to break into.

A few of my peers from the course went on to some form of teaching. One did a law conversion course, sponsored by a legal firm, with a job at the end, but hated it apparently.
 
equationgirl said:
I'm starting to think it doesn't matter what degree you do at university, just so long as you present yourself well and do a good interview.
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I'd go one better and say that having a degree isn't really necessary at all unless you're doing something like medicine, law or accountancy.

It certainly hasn't held either my Good Lady Wife or myself back.
 
Cheesypoof said:
twas a mistake for which i apologised - and to be fair i get really personal digs and character assassinations made against me and my thoughts and the way i write and even my taste in music by lots of posters every day. Every single thing dude. Does it hurt - occasionally, and am i goinna take any of it personally? no. reprimand some other posters now for their stupid gaffes cos i aint the only one around here making them, and please drop it now, just leave me.
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Leave you? You're like a dusty old 78 stuck in a groove. Poor you.

[to a previous post] No. You do not. And you're not being "bullied". Fucking toughen up, big mouth. You give it, take it like a woman.

You have a habit of insulting others - I'm still a c*nt, remember? And no, I won't let it go whilst you continue to whine about how mean other Urbs are to you.

You throw out insults and inane fucking drivel meant as "insights" and "advice" all couched in where-I-come-from nonsense, or in-my-experience rhetoric. Where do you come from, Cpoof? Mars? Or Uranus?

I said it before and I'll say it again; be sure your sins will find you out. The interwebnet isn't as anonymous as one might think. Regardless of where you come from...

Now there's a pile of filing over there. See if you can get it finished by lunchtime.
 
Um... philosophy has served me well. If you like logic perhaps consider IT. Law is financially rewarding and an obvious choice if you're trained in reasoning and argument but as with Cloo's acquaintance can be rather dull and depressing, apparently.

Whatever you turn your hand to I'm sure your degree will provide you with some valuable techniques and a suitably flippant attitude.

;)
 
phildwyer said:
Men love you, women hate you. There's an element of cause and effect involved in this.
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I dont hate her and Ive covered what I think Cheesy does to piss people off by Pm and she agreed. I dont think its gender related at all
 
lightsoutlondon said:
Not so. I am not in the Cpoof fanclub.
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Don't sweat it, that's just phil the sweaty-palmed sleaze trying to ingratiate himself with cheesy by saying stuff tailored to appeal to her vanity. :D

It's hardly to be taken seriously, even if phil intends it to be. :)
 
ViolentPanda said:
Don't sweat it, that's just phil the sweaty-palmed sleaze trying to ingratiate himself with cheesy by saying stuff tailored to appeal to her vanity. :D

It's hardly to be taken seriously, even if phil intends it to be. :)
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It'll be the Glasshouse for you, Private.
 
LilMissHissyFit said:
I dont hate her and Ive covered what I think Cheesy does to piss people off by Pm and she agreed. I dont think its gender related at all
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Uh-huh.
It's just the same old ribbing/pulling up anyone who's insensitive gets.

Remember the shit Dilzybhoy got when he blundered about shouting the odds about abortion on a thread where several women had had one.

Or fong?
 
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