What % of profits does a band/ artist typically get?

[cantsin]

great article on doing exactly that: http://www.topspinmedia.com/2009/09/the-fanfarlo-four-step/

hopefully more and more bands will do it and people will realise that you don't need a label.

Topspin have a whooooole little agenda of their own , believe

 

[genee_rave]

The Topspin model does work in that they show there is always a percentage of fans who are willing to pay a premium price for some kind of 'special / limited' product...

The whole thing about bands not needing labels anymore just doesn't ring true in a lot of cases though (although it works brilliantly for some). A good record company has the experience, money and clout which a new band needs. I'm really thinking of independent companies who will give a 50/50 profit deal and don't spend silly money. Also a lot of acts want to spend their time making music & touring, not dealing with distribution and other boring stuff!

 

[matt m]

Also, it's important to remember that most bands are lazy and/or a bit stupid.

 

[matt m]

...which is an unfair and more entertaining way of saying that they just want to play gigs and have fun, and don't want to have to write press releases, send out review copies, shmooze TV producers, phone up magazines, book gigs, hire vans, organize tours etc etc etc

 

[chazegee]

It's odd isn't it. Why don't bands just go independent and use distribution and promotion companies? Record companies are just the middle men.

Well the internet will never kill bands, it may however, kill record labels.

Gone are the days of labels you could respect re. Stiff and Factory.

XL are just about the only one left I rate.

 

[chazegee]

...which is an unfair and more entertaining way of saying that they just want to play gigs and have fun, and don't want to have to write press releases, send out review copies, shmooze TV producers, phone up magazines, book gigs, hire vans, organize tours etc etc etc

Leona Lewis on the Evening show with Adrian Chiles saying she'd like to do a photo shoot with a Donkey. She is very stupid or a secret comic genius.

 

[ouchmonkey]

But thats a factually correct example he's using

Ive no idea if hes a dick or not, but some of the deals ive been offered over the years amount to financial rape on a grand scale.

he is a dick. but the sort of dick that would have his facts straight.
he's a dick in a good way - not the way record industry lawyers are dicks.


there's a lot of barely neccesary stuff in that list that demonstrates how costs escalate even if you accept that money for promotion is well spent in getting yer music heard.

 

[chazegee]

I mean, surely the only way to make sure there is enough food for the massively increased amount of bands is by killing the labels (and eating them.)

Trouble is, I suppose it's only people who work for labels that are corrupt enough to convince people that they should be paying for the music in the first place.

 

[chazegee]

B Any band that manages to get on the radar of the major press/web in this country will have at least £150k of PR budget behind it.

But how the fuck can a crazy frog/banana phone/Charlie bit my finger get through into the mainstream for free, but a good band needs to pay?

Fuck, is this why so much garbage gets through, is the music business now almost totally unrelated to quality music? Or are the majority of people stupid and tasteless.... Or am I getting old.

God dam art, so fucking subjective. Such a shame I can't empirically prove that N-Dubz are bad and he people who listen to them are retarded spiritually. I wish it was more like a football match.

Which reminds me, if Pop Music is Football, what the hell is Lawn-Bowling?

 

[chazegee]

I mean, just to bang on, my friend Ted, who used to play in my band the Method, now works as AnR for 14th Floor records, the trendy division of Warner, he's been there for three years, a good innings, by any accounts, and he doesn't even like music, well his favourite bands are Toto and Gloria Estefan.

Shit is fucked up man.

 

[genee_rave]

Really good blog on Major Label accounting by a guy from the band Too Much Joy here: http://www.toomuchjoy.com/?p=1397.nyud.net