Pickman's model
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why not? 
what no "pitifully small swc demo" thread?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4275542.stm
it took 28 minutes for the entire demonstration to pass through parliament square. perhaps some kind arithmetician could work out, were the swc right, how fast they'd have been passing me?
even 10,000's a bit high.
which is strange, given the prominent position iraq's been given recently in the news. but there you go, crap advertising & a pisspoor leadership won't bring the masses out even on a nice day for a reasonable cause. the swc bucket-shakers were saying as it cost £25,000 to sort out today's disappointing do. i make that somewhere in the region of £3 - £4 per head.
Pickman's model
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i daresay rebel'll be along in a bit & say his bit of nonsense.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Is this a conversation with yourself or is anybody invited? 
Pickman's model
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could you please try and post something relating to today's rather feeble demonstration?Kid_Eternity said:Is this a conversation with yourself or is anybody invited?
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strangely, there didn't appear to be that many moslems as a proportion of the 300 or so feeder march from whitechapel...oisleep said:
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oh - but alex cox, the film person, was on the main march.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pickman's model said:
Why does it matter to you?
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because, once again, you're disrupting a perfectly good thread before it gets anywhere.Kid_Eternity said:
please - please - try to restrict your the subject of your comments on this thread to today's demonstration.
HarrisonSlade
say NO to the vaccine
I had one man come into the shop today with a couple of "Bush = Terrorist" posters in his bag. I tried to spark up a conversation by asking him if he enjoyed todays March, and that I was really jealous, because I was on the second march and found it a really nice day out, going along the centre of London, drinking beer, listneing to a lot of whistles going off and seeing lots of positivity from the families and old folk who also seemed to be enjoying themselves. He put his CDs into his bag looked at me with utter contempt and told me that some people took it a little bit more seriously. He then walked away without thanking me for serving him. I really enjoyed the march I went on, even though I was dragged out to do it, I do hope that the future marches haven't been taken over by the likes of him.
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well, i discounted people with beer cans, spotty white people selling social worker, people wearing crucifixes, and included - inter alia - those few people wearing the moslem 'hijab', and some men with beards. oh - and people handing out hizb ut tahrir leaflets -- that's quite a giveaway.editor said:
frankly, after a while you can tell quite easily who is definitely not a moslem.
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you were out today then?tobyjug said:
districtline
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i couldnt start a thread about this because i hard problems finding articles about this demo. somehow feels like it came, it passed an no one cared. or participated for thats sake
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yeh: but these weren't moslems.editor said:
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pickman's model said:
No no no, you misundertood, I meant why does the march today or it's apparent lack of success (in your eyes) matter to you (genuine question)?
HarrisonSlade
say NO to the vaccine
Yeah but the march that I went on, most people seemed to be having a laugh. It was like a picnic. A street party as it were. This man just seemed to want to protest about the War and expected everyone who goes to these marches to be 100% serioustobyjug said:
districtline said:i couldnt start a thread about this because i hard problems finding articles about this demo. somehow feels like it came, it passed an no one cared. or participated for thats sake
I struggled to find anything about the DESI "protest", given the way it was hyped up here.
districtline
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tobyjug said:
has that one been already?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pickman's model said:
Sure, I know a couple of people that would never guess in a million years were Muslim...PM I think you've really got to actually spend some time with Muslims because you're views on them seem to be formed by distant (skewered) observation rather than direct experience of them as people.
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i think i understood only too well.Kid_Eternity said:No no no, you misundertood, I meant why does the march today or it's apparent lack of success (in your eyes) matter to you (genuine question)?
d'you think i'm some sort of heartless sectarian, who'd cheer to see the stop the war coalition go to the wall?
don't answer that.
i always knew it would have no success, especially as i have been assured that the demonstration was timed to try to influence the labour party conference. & if a million or more people won't influence the government, fucking 6 - 7,000 definitely won't. although i don't find the long, languid decline of the swc as amusing as once i hoped, i do find plenty of interest in it - like how not to campaign, for example.
it's also useful to judge the size & influence of other not entirely unrelated organisations, like the ruc/swp.
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Kid_Eternity said:
skewered? 
& you want to put me in danger of that?
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