cemertyone
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DexterTCN said:
My words exactly......
what, no let's blame iran for iraq brit deaths thread?
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My words exactly......
cemertyone
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rocketman said:
Is it me....or can`t this kid
see how really STUPID and silly he`s making himself....Iran is meddling in the affairs of its next door state....and we are doing what exactly...have you read any kafa son....
cemertyone said:Is it me....or can`t this kid
Iran is meddling in the affairs of its next door state....and we are doing what exactly...have you read any kafa son....
We invaded without a mandate, and have been implicitly involved for decades in creating the situation - a racial civil war - we face today. For oil.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Interesting story in the Independent, suggesting that the technology the government claims came via Iran, was actually UK spook technology that the IRA got hold of during a botched "sting" operation.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/ulster/article320004.ece
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/ulster/article320004.ece
Despite the whiff of tinfoil hat here it's true that the triggering devices resemble PIRA technology. The broad technical details of these have been public domain for some time. I'm not aware of the PIRA using shaped charges though. That does seem to be a Hezbollah innovation.Bernie Gunther said:
Sadly there is no hint that the head of the PIRA engineering unit James "Mortar" Monaghan has been indulging in ecotourism or playing a valuable part in the peace process in Iraq.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Might be a little bit of tit for tat going on there you think?
Well the empowerment of the individual via easily available knowledge was always going to have revolutionary potential.JWH said:
Informed populations are not managable unless you control all the sources of information. That's the bottom line on the Jihadis as well. These people aren't ignorant and modernity means they can craft and propagate myths that move men to action.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
newharper
Manxome Tove
How Britain Botched the Iran Standoff
An opinion piece.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=67&ItemID=8990
"Privately, Iranian officials are worried that the events in Khuzestan signal the export of the Iraqi insurgency to Iran. But there is a British connection, albeit one which is not necessarily decisive. The Khuzestani Arab separatists (who call this southeastern Iranian province "Arabistan") were closely nurtured by the former Ba'athist government in Iraq and were an integral part of (former) Iraqi intelligence operations in Khuzestan. But they have also had a presence in Britain since the late 1970s.
Indeed, they seized the Iranian Embassy in 1980, prompting the British authorities to deploy the Special Air Services against them. But throughout much of the 1980s, Iranian Arab separatists were able to operate freely in the UK, even though the British authorities were well aware of their Iraqi intelligence connections. The atmosphere changed in 1990, after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the end of the prolonged honeymoon between the West and Saddam Hussein.
Indeed, during a number of occasions in the 1990s, Iranian Arab separatists based in the UK were intercepted at Heathrow airport by UK security service (MI5) officers as they were about to board flights to locations such as Larnaka, Athens and Istanbul, where they would meet Iraqi intelligence officers.
The message from the British was clear: Iraqi intelligence activity on UK soil would not be tolerated (as it had been in the 1980s). But since the downfall of Saddam, Iranian Arab separatists are back in favor in London. They have met Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, on at least one occasion and the Iranian government alleges that many more secret meetings have taken place. Interestingly, Iranian Arab separatists have also been openly courted by the Canadian government."
"Given this state of affairs, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that the British government has badly miscalculated. Indeed, if the British government wanted to portray itself as a key player in the nuclear stand-off, the uncompromising message from Tehran leaves little doubt that the UK is merely a pawn in an escalating geostrategic conflict between the Islamic Republic and the United States."
Well thanks jack.
An opinion piece.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=67&ItemID=8990
"Privately, Iranian officials are worried that the events in Khuzestan signal the export of the Iraqi insurgency to Iran. But there is a British connection, albeit one which is not necessarily decisive. The Khuzestani Arab separatists (who call this southeastern Iranian province "Arabistan") were closely nurtured by the former Ba'athist government in Iraq and were an integral part of (former) Iraqi intelligence operations in Khuzestan. But they have also had a presence in Britain since the late 1970s.
Indeed, they seized the Iranian Embassy in 1980, prompting the British authorities to deploy the Special Air Services against them. But throughout much of the 1980s, Iranian Arab separatists were able to operate freely in the UK, even though the British authorities were well aware of their Iraqi intelligence connections. The atmosphere changed in 1990, after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the end of the prolonged honeymoon between the West and Saddam Hussein.
Indeed, during a number of occasions in the 1990s, Iranian Arab separatists based in the UK were intercepted at Heathrow airport by UK security service (MI5) officers as they were about to board flights to locations such as Larnaka, Athens and Istanbul, where they would meet Iraqi intelligence officers.
The message from the British was clear: Iraqi intelligence activity on UK soil would not be tolerated (as it had been in the 1980s). But since the downfall of Saddam, Iranian Arab separatists are back in favor in London. They have met Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, on at least one occasion and the Iranian government alleges that many more secret meetings have taken place. Interestingly, Iranian Arab separatists have also been openly courted by the Canadian government."
"Given this state of affairs, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that the British government has badly miscalculated. Indeed, if the British government wanted to portray itself as a key player in the nuclear stand-off, the uncompromising message from Tehran leaves little doubt that the UK is merely a pawn in an escalating geostrategic conflict between the Islamic Republic and the United States."
Well thanks jack.
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