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What music will define this decade?

in terms of what's remembered as the mainstream "music of the decade" pop idol, x factor et al will sadly be the defining movement. :(

i doubt it, it's generally things of some quality that get remembered, all of the real throwaway stuff from every decade just gets trashed (as it's meant to be). it might be remembered as a phenomenon amongst cultural historians, but the music will not be a part of that except as a curiosity maybe.
 
Surely this is going to depend on what comes next.

if lots of bands that were influenced by the libertines spring up in 5 years time. They will be rememmbered if lots of poeple sound like the ting tings they will be remembered.

innit?

dave
 
Nowt wrong with Girls Aloud. Or, and I don't like her stuff but, Leana Lewis. Woman's got some fucking voice on her.

If you look back at the charts from the old days, you do get the odd time where it's a goldmine, but mostly it's just dross

The same applies to any artistic medium tho - music throughout the ages (only about 10-15% of European classical is ever regularly performed now), books, film, TV, videogames most of it is dross, this is the nature of the beast...
 
You'll know in about 2020 what tunes have lasted - TBH I never expected anyone to still have the slightest bit of interest in Duran Duran, yet they've maintained a career and their singles are still being played, and, oddly enough, enjoyed. I think they are crap.

In 2018, they'll be an urban thread asking the same question about the 20teens, and someone will suggest that 'there's no-one around today as good as coldplay in the Noughties!"

...at which point, I will kick off my slippers, throw down my cane and hurl myself on to a kitchen knife....god, I hate Coldplay and all the other coffee table indie acts...mumble, curse, mumble, urrgh!
 
i doubt it, it's generally things of some quality that get remembered, all of the real throwaway stuff from every decade just gets trashed (as it's meant to be). it might be remembered as a phenomenon amongst cultural historians, but the music will not be a part of that except as a curiosity maybe.

but in terms of a single musical movement defining an era isn't the cultural phenomenon aspect exactly what you look for? the crossover between the lives of the people who listen to/imitate/adore the artists and the art itself? no matter how bad the music sadly.

of course musos and scene heads will all have their own take but they always do.
 
if lots of bands that were influenced by the libertines spring up in 5 years time. They will be rememmbered if lots of poeple sound like the ting tings they will be remembered.
I think you're thinking on much to short a timescale. at least I hope so, i don't want music history to be repeating every 5 years
 
well i figure 13/14 year olds just picking up thier guitars now will be 18/19 in five years time which is about the time poeple get serious.


dave
 
but in terms of a single musical movement defining an era isn't the cultural phenomenon aspect exactly what you look for? the crossover between the lives of the people who listen to/imitate/adore the artists and the art itself? no matter how bad the music sadly.

of course musos and scene heads will all have their own take but they always do.

no, i don't think contemporary popularity is necessarily any indication that music will be remembered. like i picked 1965 at random
http://www.wwwk.co.uk/music/hit-singles/years/1965.htm
the 2 singles that were at number one for joint longest were The Beatles and Ken Dodd.
which one would you pick as "defining" that year most?
 
well i figure 13/14 year olds just picking up thier guitars now will be 18/19 in five years time which is about the time poeple get serious.


dave

They're playing Guitar Hero and Rock Band instead, these days.

With any luck, it'll save us from the next slew of Coldplays and Franz Ferdinands.

*crosses fingers*
 
yes exactly. the bland pap stuff will be forgotten quickly. maybe i am too optimistic, but i think if you look at the history of pop music it's true.

Matter of perspective innit? For me the 90s were pretty much about nothing other than dance music - I vaguely paid attention to some Britpop stuff, but all the hoo-ha about 'grunge' passed my by utterly...
 
Matter of perspective innit? For me the 90s were pretty much about nothing other than dance music - I vaguely paid attention to some Britpop stuff, but all the hoo-ha about 'grunge' passed my by utterly...

well yes, i kind of think the OP doesn't make sense nowadays because pop music is so fragmented and tribal that is impossible to pick one thing as a "defining" genre. but no matter what perspective you're looking from it will generally be the best stuff that gets remembered (at the risk of stating the obvious)
 
well yes, i kind of think the OP doesn't make sense nowadays because pop music is so fragmented and tribal that is impossible to pick one thing as a "defining" genre. but no matter what perspective you're looking from it will generally be the best stuff that gets remembered (at the risk of stating the obvious)

yes, exactly. Spot on. Things like 'getting played on radio 1' or 'top of the pops' (or equivilant) simply don't matter like they used to. It's another consiquence of the rise of the 'net. I guess you had a precursor with fanzine culture but that never had the same reach or power.
 
without the internet people had to be really into things and put much more effort in to learn about a "scene", so there were maybe fewer, but bigger, subcultures. now if you get a little interested in something it takes a few seconds to find out everything about it and download all the best songs, without really getting into a "scene" at all.
 
"keane to be the main headliners at tonights bbc electric proms" radio 2

keane!!!!
keane for gods sake, can you get more drab?
 
I know what music will define this decade, but I'm not fucking telling you lot.

I've a wager riding on this.

:)
 
Oh, that I wish it weren't the case. I should have added 'low grade hip-hop' to be completely precise.
 
Sorry I'm late to this thread, my internet's been down for a couple of weeks.

How about the notion of the super-producer? I'm thinking in America of the Neptunes, Timbaland, Kanye, Dre, Lil Jon, Rodney Jerkins, and closer to home Mark Ronson, the mighty Xenomania and even Brian Eno. This seems to be used as more of a selling point nowadays, rather than in the past where producers had their pet artists; Spector with the Ronettes and the Crystals, Leiber and Stoller with Elvis, Dre with Snoop, Timbaland with Missy, etc.
 
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