Discussion in 'suburban75' started by Orang Utan, May 2, 2017.
nah, you're overthinking it - there's no bread and there's no two slices. it's not a sandwich
What I'm saying is that if someone asked you what a wrap is, you could start by telling them that it's a kind of sandwich, which orients them to the general nature of said foodstuff, after which you can then interrupt their musings with more detail which will supply them with a more sophisticated understanding of what a wrap is, and both its similarity to and distinction from a sandwich 'proper'.
Much as if you asked me what a samosa is, I could initially reduce your ignorance by informing you that it is a kind of pie, although it does not belong to the strictly-defined class of pies as meat or fruit contained in pastry.
if someone asked me what a wrap was I'd show em a Public Enemy video then punch them in the face. Literally.
As to the original chart, I'd say it's a capital "L" rotated 90 degrees to the right. From ice cream sandwich to chicken wrap. (Through proper sandwiches, obviously. Not that horror in the bottom right.)
I'd say there are probably hot dog-like things that I'd call a sandwich (sausage baguette, anyone?), but hot dogs are hot dogs and Not Sandwiches.
A sandwich is made with sliced bread. A cob with stuff in it is a cob, not a sandwich. A burger inhabits a single bun, not slices of a loaf, ergo it is not a sandwich regardless of what Americans seem to think.
And a pizza is not a 'pie'. It's a fucking pizza. No pastry = not a pie.
apart from shepherd's pie
It may be called a pie but it's closer to a casserole.
fish stew with a potato topping I spose
A sandwich maker
So a pizza is a sandwich.
A burger is not a sandwich
It's a burger
Is pizza base bread? It's not proper risen bread. I don't think you can have a sandwich with flat bread.
Pretty much the same as bread, yes. Its flour and yeast. And if left for 10 minutes will rise in to a loaf
Flatbread Club Sandwich
Not a sandwich unless it's from proper bread imo.
So a pizza ain't a sandwich either
So to be clear, it's a sandwich if the bread is made from proper (ie risen loaf) bread, such as chorleywood, baguette, ciabatta, cob/roll/barm etc
But not if the bread is a flat bread like roti, pitta etc
Just doesn't seem that way because it's so thin. A deep dish, Chicago-style, very definitely has an air-filled crumb created by yeast.
but that's unacceptable even as a pizza
I guess so, by their loosey-goosey definition.
Just been reading this, it's quite a long list -
List of sandwiches - Wikipedia
There's some truly disgusting sandwiches listed there. What is wrong with people?
It reminded of banh mi though. They're well lush Vietnamese sandwiches that use this very tasty baguette that is crispy on the outside but soft inside.
Can we all agree a poptart is not a sandwich?
In the OP, the "structural purist" is apparently still happy to accept waffles as being the outer layers. I would dispute this. A purist would not allow anything but bread to be the outer layer.
They could be a formal purist but not a material purist.
We need a third dimension, clearly
After brexit a sandwich will be sandwich like it should be - stale white sliced and limited to 4 choices - cheese and tomato, ham, beef and egg mayonnaise. Pickle and cucumber will be permitted only on special occasions like St Georges day.
For me eatability with the hand is also crucial to sandwichness. If it requires a knife and fork to eat, it's lost something important.
Has it been pointed out yet that there is no way that a structure purist would refer to items in between two pieces of bread as "toppings"?
Chips and crisps also valid filling for yer sliced white
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