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What makes a sandwich?

Discussion in 'suburban75' started by Orang Utan, May 2, 2017.

  1. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    nah, you're overthinking it - there's no bread and there's no two slices. it's not a sandwich
     
  2. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    What I'm saying is that if someone asked you what a wrap is, you could start by telling them that it's a kind of sandwich, which orients them to the general nature of said foodstuff, after which you can then interrupt their musings with more detail which will supply them with a more sophisticated understanding of what a wrap is, and both its similarity to and distinction from a sandwich 'proper'.

    Much as if you asked me what a samosa is, I could initially reduce your ignorance by informing you that it is a kind of pie, although it does not belong to the strictly-defined class of pies as meat or fruit contained in pastry.
     
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  3. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    if someone asked me what a wrap was I'd show em a Public Enemy video then punch them in the face. Literally.
     
  4. Chz

    Chz Stark Raving Sane

    As to the original chart, I'd say it's a capital "L" rotated 90 degrees to the right. From ice cream sandwich to chicken wrap. (Through proper sandwiches, obviously. Not that horror in the bottom right.)

    I'd say there are probably hot dog-like things that I'd call a sandwich (sausage baguette, anyone?), but hot dogs are hot dogs and Not Sandwiches.
     
  5. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Somewhere under the raincloud

    A sandwich is made with sliced bread. A cob with stuff in it is a cob, not a sandwich. A burger inhabits a single bun, not slices of a loaf, ergo it is not a sandwich regardless of what Americans seem to think.

    And a pizza is not a 'pie'. It's a fucking pizza. No pastry = not a pie.
     
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  6. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    apart from shepherd's pie
     
  7. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Somewhere under the raincloud

    It may be called a pie but it's closer to a casserole.
     
  8. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    ocean/admirals pie
     
  9. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    fish stew with a potato topping I spose
     
  10. xenon

    xenon Carne Por la Machina

    A sandwich maker
     
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  11. WouldBe

    WouldBe non smoking

    So a pizza is a sandwich. :cool:
     
  12. joustmaster

    joustmaster offcumdun

    A burger is not a sandwich
    It's a burger
     
  13. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Is pizza base bread? It's not proper risen bread. I don't think you can have a sandwich with flat bread.
     
  14. joustmaster

    joustmaster offcumdun

    Pretty much the same as bread, yes. Its flour and yeast. And if left for 10 minutes will rise in to a loaf
     
  15. ruffneck23

    ruffneck23 Well-Known Member

    Flatbread Club Sandwich
     
  16. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Not a sandwich unless it's from proper bread imo.
    So a pizza ain't a sandwich either
     
  17. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    So to be clear, it's a sandwich if the bread is made from proper (ie risen loaf) bread, such as chorleywood, baguette, ciabatta, cob/roll/barm etc
    But not if the bread is a flat bread like roti, pitta etc
     
  18. Chz

    Chz Stark Raving Sane

    Just doesn't seem that way because it's so thin. A deep dish, Chicago-style, very definitely has an air-filled crumb created by yeast.
     
  19. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    but that's unacceptable even as a pizza
     
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  20. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    I guess so, by their loosey-goosey definition.
     
  21. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    There's some truly disgusting sandwiches listed there. What is wrong with people?
    It reminded of banh mi though. They're well lush Vietnamese sandwiches that use this very tasty baguette that is crispy on the outside but soft inside.
     
  22. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    Can we all agree a poptart is not a sandwich?
     
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  23. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    In the OP, the "structural purist" is apparently still happy to accept waffles as being the outer layers. I would dispute this. A purist would not allow anything but bread to be the outer layer.
     
  24. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    They could be a formal purist but not a material purist.
     
  25. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    We need a third dimension, clearly
     
  26. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

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    After brexit a sandwich will be sandwich like it should be - stale white sliced and limited to 4 choices - cheese and tomato, ham, beef and egg mayonnaise. Pickle and cucumber will be permitted only on special occasions like St Georges day.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2017
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  27. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    For me eatability with the hand is also crucial to sandwichness. If it requires a knife and fork to eat, it's lost something important.
     
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  28. Enviro

    Enviro Make your assessment

    Has it been pointed out yet that there is no way that a structure purist would refer to items in between two pieces of bread as "toppings"? :mad:
     
  29. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    Chips and crisps also valid filling for yer sliced white
     
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