What is the story with this Nursery rhyme

[Biddlybee]

To emphasise the Saes' Germanic origins

Ta, went over my head

 

[Belushi]

Taffy isn't a derogative term tho is it.

I find it derogatory.

 

[internetstalker]

You've really lost your marbles today, haven't you?

*facepalm*

You Didn't think I was being serious did you?

 

[cesare]

I find it derogatory.

Yep.

 

[internetstalker]

I find it derogatory.

I find your opinion derogatory

 

[editor]

*facepalm*

You Didn't think I was being serious did you?

I'm certainly impressed with your attempt at a face saving 'double bluff,' although I fear you've failed to convince many people.

 

[internetstalker]

I find it derogatory.

Yep.

My Welsh Brother in law has a personalised number plate TAF5Y (or summat like that)

hardly the work of an insulted ex pat is it

 

[Belushi]

Anyway, back to the rhyme I was told as a kid it refered to our medieval habit of cattle raiding and English retaliation, dont know how true that is tho'

 

[internetstalker]

I'm certainly impressed with your attempt at a face saving 'double bluff,' although I fear you've failed to convince many people.

So you really think I'nm of the opinion that there are more Jimmy's in England then Taffs in Wales?

I will be adding smilies in future

whatevs!


besides, I knda thought this line was proof i wasn't being serious:

The English get called Wankers from the other 3 but thats not the same

 

[cesare]

My Welsh Brother in law has a personalised number plate TAF5Y (or summat like that)

hardly the work of an insulted ex pat is it

The difference is that he can call himself that if he wants. Same as some Asian kids have taken to calling each other pakis.

It's entirely different if someone else uses the term. The recipient decides if they find loaded, derogatory terms offensive - not the person using them.

 

[Belushi]

My Welsh Brother in law has a personalised number plate TAF5Y (or summat like that)

hardly the work of an insulted ex pat is it

Sure, and when I was a kid in the Eighties I knew a black fella called Chalky; some people play along cos its easier some dont.

 

[internetstalker]

The difference is that he can call himself that if he wants. Same as some Asian kids have taken to calling each other pakis.

It's entirely different if someone else uses the term. The recipient decides if they find loaded, derogatory terms offensive - not the person using them.

Sure, and when I was a kid in the Eighties I knew a black fella called Chalky; some people play along cos its easier some dont.

I don't think those 2 points can be compared with a Welshman being called Taffy TBH

 

[cesare]

I don't think those 2 points can be compared TBH

Why not?

You've decided what's offensive or not, have you?

 

[ddraig]

oh dear, you really are THICK IS!
aaaahahahahahaha, every single post a display of your thick bitter thickness
and then you attempt the backtrack and FAIL! spectacularly
FAIL FAIL FAIL
awww, poor dab

 

[Belushi]

I don't think those 2 points can be compared with a Welshman being called Taffy TBH

Ity doesnt matter what you think to be frank, its up to the recipient to decide what they find offensive or not.

 

[DotCommunist]

How come you have to pay to get into wales but it's free to get out?

 

[internetstalker]

Why not?

You've decided what's offensive or not, have you?

No I just don't regard Taffy as offensive.

Maybe it's the amount of Welshman i have met who call themselves Taff
or the fact I've never heard a Welshman say it is a derogative term or refer to it as such

certainly not the same as nigga or paki

 

[cesare]

No I just don't regard Taffy as offensive.

Maybe it's the amount of Welshman i have met who call themselves Taff
or the fact I've never heard a Welshman say it is a derogative term or refer to it as such

certainly not the same as nigga or paki

Well you now heard a number of Welsh people tell you it's offensive - so you may want to bear that in mind.

 

[Belushi]

or the fact I've never heard a Welshman say it is a derogative term or refer to it as such

You have now.

 

[internetstalker]

Ity doesnt matter what you think to be frank, its up to the recipient to decide what they find offensive or not.

yeah but by that reckoning your leaving yourself open to the PC brigade where ANYTHING can be offensive.

I prefer the common sense route

If my Welsh brother in law goes to bussiness meetings showing off his car with TAF5Y as the number plate proud as punch

then common sense tells me theres not much derogative about the term

 

[Belushi]

yeah but by that reckoning your leaving yourself open to the PC brigade where ANYTHING can be offensive.

I prefer the common sense route

If my Welsh brother in law goes to bussiness meetings showing off his car with TAF5Y as the number plate proud as punch

then common sense tells me theres not much derogative about the term

Thats about all we need to know.

 

[cesare]

yeah but by that reckoning your leaving yourself open to the PC brigade where ANYTHING can be offensive.

I prefer the common sense route

If my Welsh brother in law goes to bussiness meetings showing off his car with TAF5Y as the number plate proud as punch

then common sense tells me theres not much derogative about the term

It's not PC brigade you idiot. It's some Welsh people telling you it's fucking offensive and you going 'la la la I'm not listening cos I've got a welsh brother in law'.

Christ.

 

[internetstalker]

Thats about all we need to know.

Touche!

 

[ddraig]

tell you BiL that he's thick as well
and letting the side down

(does he doff his cap to the boss in'tmornin??)

silly bugger trying to get a cheap shot out of a silly song poem - £5
silly bugger massively missing the point, contradicting itself and digging a bigger hole - £10
silly thick bugger still not getting it after having it explained by various people - priceless, fucking priceless!

carry on boy, great afternoon entertainment

 

[internetstalker]

It's not PC brigade you idiot. It's some Welsh people telling you it's fucking offensive and you going 'la la la I'm not listening cos I've got a welsh brother in law'.

Christ.

thats not what I said at all, and there no need to call me an idiot as I am listening, so calm down a bit!

FFS!

 

[cesare]

thats not what I said at all, and there no need to call me an idiot as I am listening, so calm down a bit!

FFS!

You're not listening at all, that's the point. It's like deja vu from another thread, South African terms or summat.

 

[internetstalker]

This message is hidden because ddraig is on your ignore list.

you still here?

shame

 

[internetstalker]

You're not listening at all, that's the point. It's like deja vu from another thread, South African terms or summat.

LOL!

thats wasn't me not listening that time

anyway, how am I not listening?

What do you want me to say!

I go through 32 years of life never being told Taffy is a derogative term

then get told it is

I see

I've learnt that some people find the term derogative!

now what?

 

[ddraig]

you still here?

shame

awww thickboy has taken his ball home and doesn't want to play as he's losing!

awwww, game set and pwned!

 

[cesare]

LOL!

thats wasn't me not listening that time

anyway, how am I not listening?

What do you want me to say!

I go through 32 years of life never being told Taffy is a derogative term

then get told it is

I see

I've learnt that some people find the term derogative!

now what?

All you need do is be sure of your audience's reaction if you use the term.