What is happening to London?

[potential]

things that werent tollerated a few years ago are now the norn.
pissing in the streets , throwing out old bits of furniture.
my mate lived in the posh bit of stockwell, cunts used to break into
the house regualy, they used to jump over the wall and peer into
kitchen while we were sitting there, no fear cos they knew
they could just go up into the angell estate.
why slag off the people in those nice house saying they never interact
with general public. thats bollocks

 

[boohoo]

why slag off the people in those nice house saying they never interact
with general public. thats bollocks

ummmm, because, me and my family, living on the edge of the nice bit in a nice house have over 30 years had barely a squeak out of these people. Not saying that they are bad or not nice, I have met one or two ( and have worked for one as a mothers help). But they do tend to look down their noses. They know who my parents are -we just ain't posh -that's the problem.

 

[waverunner]

What you consider a 'shithole' is all relative though isn't it PG (and everyone)? I used to live in an area in NW which has some very pricey bits and is considered 'trendy' and I fucking hated it. It was full of idiots wanting to hang around looking cool maaaan and my local corner shop guy refused to even say a friendly hello even though he saw me at least once a week, without fail, for a whole year. Nobody was friendly. Nobody gave a shit. That to me, was a shithole.

Streatham doesn't have the worlds greatest reputation and a few of my friends think I live in the ghetto and some might consider it a shithole for various reasons. But I love it here because I don't feel out of place, the locals are friendly enough, I feel like I actually live in a 'neighbourhood' rather than living just in my flat which is how I felt in NW. Perhaps if we entirely remove the 'neighbourhood' element from everywhere, then no one will know anyone and that way kids will not want to shoot anyone

 

[HackneyE9]

I'd live anywhere in London except NW.

 

[editor]

things that werent tollerated a few years ago are now the norn.

"The morals of children are tenfold worse than formerly"

Lord Ashley, 1843

 

[zenie]

OK fuck it I'm wrong ,please delete the thread I haven't been in LOndon long enough.

No you're not wrong and there's a number of reasons behind it.

 

[untethered]

Lord Ashley, 1843

And what's to say that things haven't got worse since then?

 

[potential]

. Not saying that they are bad or not nice, I have met one or two ( and have worked for one as a mothers help). But they do tend to look down their noses. They know who my parents are -we just ain't posh -that's the problem.

the stock pk rd that i know most of the residence were v friendly
gaurdian reading types, used to all help out for the church up the road and when ever there was a do at the adventure play ground bit were fundraiseing etc. looking down there noses isnt a crime, but the shit that they have to put up with [ vandalism mugging ] is a crime.
if someone looked down there nose at me i , i would be at my polite
best just to prove i have no prejedice's.

 

[LDR]

Well I really like LD Rudeboy's area. Genuinely. Half a dozen mates there - always good for a drink - friendly pubs - multicultural.

I fixed it for you.

Apart from our neighbours on our left, we were the only white people on our side of the street when we moved in about five years ago. The Nigerian bloke, the Turkish-Cypriots, the white Eastend couple who had lived in the same house for the last eighteen years and the two Asian families we share our street with all went out of their way to welcome us to the area. They all knew each other and while they may not got to the pub together, they certainly mixed. That's not happened anywhere else I've ever lived.

Despite me feeling like my area isn't as safe as it used to be. I still love London and think it's the most tolerant place I've ever lived or indeed travelled to and I believe I'm reasonably well-travelled.

 

[Pete the Greek]

What you consider a 'shithole' is all relative though isn't it PG (and everyone)? I used to live in an area in NW which has some very pricey bits and is considered 'trendy' and I fucking hated it. It was full of idiots wanting to hang around looking cool maaaan and my local corner shop guy refused to even say a friendly hello even though he saw me at least once a week, without fail, for a whole year. Nobody was friendly. Nobody gave a shit. That to me, was a shithole.

Streatham doesn't have the worlds greatest reputation and a few of my friends think I live in the ghetto and some might consider it a shithole for various reasons. But I love it here because I don't feel out of place, the locals are friendly enough, I feel like I actually live in a 'neighbourhood' rather than living just in my flat which is how I felt in NW. Perhaps if we entirely remove the 'neighbourhood' element from everywhere, then no one will know anyone and that way kids will not want to shoot anyone

aah!! That sounds like a North London / South London thing.

I totally agree. South London, despite being a dump by and large, is far more friendly and hosts far more cohesive communities that North London which is a god awful, cold, bitter hostile bag of fetid smeg.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

multiculural???

what a fucking CRE pedalled myth.

London, well, Britain, is multi-racial not multicultural.

By and large, ethnic groups stick to their own, rarely blend in and mix...and the tensions being ratcheted up recently because of the political situation is awful.

Honestly, people love to fool themselves.

Yes, says the bloke who can't believe I am married to a Greek. Then called me a liar because I'd met many hundred muslims. And also have conversations to mutual benefit with several hundred African Carribbean and African American black people.

Still, must be fooling myself, but no-one I work with day-to-day questions it. Why don't you try telling them they are multi-racial.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

Cheers LD - except the once, and that was just imported urbanites who spoiled it!

 

[FridgeMagnet]

multiculural???

what a fucking CRE pedalled myth.

London, well, Britain, is multi-racial not multicultural.

By and large, ethnic groups stick to their own, rarely blend in and mix...and the tensions being ratcheted up recently because of the political situation is awful.

Honestly, people love to fool themselves.

Bollocks. The people ratcheting up the tensions are the ones demanding that everyone behave all jolly British (aka "integration") and while we're at it speak English goddamn you, and of course Muslims must repeatedly beg forgiveness for the behaviour of random nutcases, and anyone in a bloody headscarf is either oppressed or a terrorist.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Yes, says the bloke who can't believe I am married to a Greek. Then called me a liar because I'd met many hundred muslims. And also have conversations to mutual benefit with several hundred African Carribbean and African American black people.

Still, must be fooling myself, but no-one I work with day-to-day questions it. Why don't you try telling them they are multi-racial.

you think cunt, i couldn't care less who you meet in your job, it's irrelevant from my point.

I never said individuals were multi-racial.....BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE, NUMBNUTS!!!

I said London and Britain as a while is multi-racial. Big difference.

You really are a bit of a thicko aren't you?

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

aah!! That sounds like a North London / South London thing.

I totally agree. South London, despite being a dump by and large, is far more friendly and hosts far more cohesive communities that North London which is a god awful, cold, bitter hostile bag of fetid smeg.

Where's that then?

See I've lived in Lewisham, trained to teach in Eltham and West Norwood, lived in New Cross, lived in Great Ormond St, in Islington, in Tottenham, in Walthamstow, and in Bounds Green. Taught in Plaistow, Walthamstow and Edmonton.

And you know what, you talk bollocks. But let me know about your experiences.

 

[boohoo]

the stock pk rd that i know most of the residence were v friendly
gaurdian reading types, used to all help out for the church up the road and when ever there was a do at the adventure play ground bit were fundraiseing etc. looking down there noses isnt a crime, but the shit that they have to put up with [ vandalism mugging ] is a crime.
if someone looked down there nose at me i , i would be at my polite
best just to prove i have no prejedice's.

My parents live on Stockwell Park road (for 30 years) and have met quite a few of the people and are also prone to the same vandalism, mugging, all that shite that has always gone on there. My parents, having met lots of the people at the local church, my mum worked at the playgroup and met many of the local residence and their kids, yet the majority choose to look down their nose. My mum commented how sad it was that for all her time there, these people are not particularly friendly.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

you think cunt, i couldn't care less who you meet in your job, it's irrelevant from my point.

I never said individuals were multi-racial.....BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE, NUMBNUTS!!!

I said London and Britain as a while is multi-racial. Big difference.

You really are a bit of a thicko aren't you?

So you admit that in four previous threads you were wrong to try to be right in this one.

And you'll fail again.

Carry on simpleton.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Bollocks. The people ratcheting up the tensions are the ones demanding that everyone behave all jolly British (aka "integration") and while we're at it speak English goddamn you, and of course Muslims must repeatedly beg forgiveness for the behaviour of random nutcases, and anyone in a bloody headscarf is either oppressed or a terrorist.

How utterly random and generalising!

Also, I don't see much in the way of rampant apology giving from the Muslim community, do you? *checks doorstep, can't see any Muslim people apologising*

Or is that me and my Nauseating Forelock Tugging Apologia (sic) at work again?

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

Bollocks. The people ratcheting up the tensions are the ones demanding that everyone behave all jolly British (aka "integration") and while we're at it speak English goddamn you, and of course Muslims must repeatedly beg forgiveness for the behaviour of random nutcases, and anyone in a bloody headscarf is either oppressed or a terrorist.

Great post.

Waiting for Pete to back his post up.

 

[Pete the Greek]

Great post.

Waiting for Pete to back his post up.

Shit stirrer.

You are Maddalene and I claim my five pounds

(p.s. It's not a call out because there is no such poster as Maddalene anymore)

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

How utterly random and generalising!

Also, I don't see much in the way of rampant apology giving from the Muslim community, do you *checks doorstep, can't see any Muslim people apologising*

Or is that me and my Nauseating Forelock Tugging Apologia (sic) at work again?

what a ridiculous demand. Never saw a member of the Greek church apologising for a couple of years ago.


Nor would I expect to. Twat. Now, what does an ordinary muslim have to apologise for and why shouldn't a member of GO church apologise?

 

[editor]

And what's to say that things haven't got worse since then?

So how much worse do you think the morals of children are from their previous generation now? 15 times? 20 times?

The point is that each generation declares things to be out of control and worse then before, yet history doesn't bear this out.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

By the way, I'm a member of the GO church.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

Shit stirrer.

You are Maddalene and I claim my five pounds

(p.s. It's not a call out because there is no such poster as Maddalene anymore)

No, I'm flimsier and have been here since 2002. Now that you know, can you please address the argument?

 

[Pete the Greek]

we've gone into rampant 'taking PtG out of context mode again, haven't we? Oh dear. Another potentially interesting thread hijacked and ruined by the trolling misrepresenters.

Just leave me alone

 

[boohoo]

aah!! That sounds like a North London / South London thing.

I totally agree. South London, despite being a dump by and large, is far more friendly and hosts far more cohesive communities that North London which is a god awful, cold, bitter hostile bag of fetid smeg.

I prefer north London - Hackney, Tottenham, Edmonton. And I'm a south Londoner.

Wouldn't live in NW though.

 

[Pete the Greek]

I prefer north London - Hackney, Tottenham, Edmonton. And I'm a south Londoner.

Wouldn't live in NW though.

I went to see Spurs play once at White Hart Lane. Was terrified on my walk up from Seven Sisters!

 

[FridgeMagnet]

How utterly random and generalising!

what

Also, I don't see much in the way of rampant apology giving from the Muslim community, do you? *checks doorstep, can't see any Muslim people apologising*

Why should they have to?

Or is that me and my Nauseating Forelock Tugging Apologia (sic) at work again?

what

 

[boohoo]

I went to see Spurs play once at White Hart Lane. Was terrified on my walk up from Seven Sisters!

Seven Sisters is a bit of a funny one. I didn't like it when I was first up there but i learnt to be very fond of it. My favourite place for being peaceful was Stamford Hill. And Clapton ( although murder mile at the time) was a great place with the wonderful peaceful river Lea to relax by.

 

[nonamenopackdrill]

well exactly. When he explains his ridiculous generalisations...