What is Art?

[cesare]

Scruffy cunt

That's not specific to men though.

 

[rr22]

That's not specific to men though.

One hell of a point,
A Failure,
"Mad"
L.M.F.
Eccentric,

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Art is humankind's attempt at channelling the divine.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Art is humankind's attempt at channelling the divine.

Interesting response.

Art is creative expression, representation and response.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

It doesn't do a lot for me. It doesn't move me.

It is also typical of much conceptual art in that the viewer has to put their own ideas onto it for it to make much sense. She is showing us her bed and what it looks like, but she is not telling us why she is showing us her bed, and without us projecting some idea we might have of why she is doing that, it makes little sense.

Is she doing it to show her own inner turmoil? If so, she's only presenting rather abstracted evidence of that inner turmoil - its result in the state of her bed. Or she just could be a tremendous slob who doesn't care about cleanliness - Quentin Crisp did not go 'boo-hoo, look at me, I can't clean up', he said 'yay, look at me, I don't clean up, and I don't care'. So in that sense, we really are projecting our ideas onto it - it doesn't demand a particular interpretation. The art here is perhaps a reflection of the artist in another way - it is lazy: look, I'm an artist in such turmoil that this is what I present to you as my art.

That said, I don't hate it. I think I can see why she's done it. And given the way that she's presented it as art, it is art, even if you don't like it. It is art that rather requests our indulgence, mind you. But then so was Duchamps' Fountain, and I like that.

That unmade bed is rubbish, and not art unless someone is a very gullible individual. Yes, people can project their own thoughts onto it, but its still the equivalent of projecting your ideas onto a turd.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

If you project your ideas onto a turd, turd-germs can travel back up the thought waves and infect your mind.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

If you project your ideas onto a turd, turd-germs can travel back up the thought waves and infect your mind.

But what if it is a polished turd?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

That's racist.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

That's racist.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

The 'you can't polish a turd' saying is a variant of 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear', but I like the extended version 'you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter'.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Nothing like a joke, well explained.

 

[weltweit]

What's the equivalent derogatory term for an untidy, dirty man?

I thought slattern works for a man or a woman, does it not?

eta: oh no, I see that it does not. !!

eta2: would never call a woman a slob, for me only men can be slobs

 

[weltweit]

Interesting response.

Art is creative expression, representation and response.

Does it require response?

If Picasso or Dali never showed any of their work, would it not still be art?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Does it require response?

If Picasso or Dali never showed any of their work, would it not still be art?

I don't think it requires a response no.
Much art is created in repsonse to other things though.
Also those who see art have a response of some kind.

 

[Blagsta]

Art, art is the ring around your bathtub.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Asking 'what is art?' is like taking a hatpin to a balloon full of bullshit.

 

[Blagsta]

Art is a joint rolled in toilet paper.

 

[weltweit]

Art is a joint rolled in toilet paper.

I don't think you are taking this seriously!!

 

[weltweit]

I think art is about creativity.
I know some very creative people and it isn't a stretch to say they are artistic.

 

[Blagsta]

I am not of your world. But fear me not, I will do you no harm!

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Art is subjective. It is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Sirena]

Art is subjective. It is in the eye of the beholder.

And art stands in opposition to science. The one is a subjective flight of fancy which can't be measured and the other is a limited expression of objectivity which must be measurable.

 

[weltweit]

Art is subjective. It is in the eye of the beholder.

So, for me, if I like it, it is art, if I don't it ain't!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's not specific to men though.

A lot of people in the UK at least don't really call women 'cunts'.

 

[butchersapron]

Art was a short-lived phase in the history of the organisation and display of human creativity. Chiefly associated with the rise of capitalism and bourgeois culture. It failed to live beyond the defeat of its host.

 

[weltweit]

This is one of my all time favourite photographs. It is exactly as I intended it to be and is straight out of the camera. For me this is what I enjoy.

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[littlebabyjesus]

And art stands in opposition to science. The one is a subjective flight of fancy which can't be measured and the other is a limited expression of objectivity which must be measurable.

I'm not so sure that's true. I don't see opposition between science and art. Both have things in common - the role of inspiration and seeing the world in a new way, for instance: without creative thinking, science would go nowhere. Art can feed off science, and science can feed off art. Complementary, perhaps, but not opposite.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

If the question is about visual art then I like to see art as a story told in pictures. ....

But to my mind all art is about telling a story ...as in one mind communicating with many through a medium. Visual or Auditory.

 

[cesare]

A lot of people in the UK at least don't really call women 'cunts'.

A lot of people in the UK at least don't really call men 'cunts' either.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

A lot of people in the UK at least don't really call men 'cunts' either.

Yes, but of those that use the word, many only use it for men. I would think that most do.