What have the Brits ever done for Ireland?

[revol68]

northern irish supporters would still tend to see themselves as Irish in relation the English, they still see themselves as British, but sure thats just a truer reflection of geography, after all Ireland is a British Isle.


All the wee chucks I know refuse to support northern ireland, wankers the lot of them, especially when the Republics team is the england b side!

and can arseholes like Dilzybhoy stop acting offended, especially cos your fucking scottish and would seem to have knowledge of the north as nuanced as the Talibans critique of Buddhist architeture.

 

[fanta]

and can arseholes like Dilzybhoy stop acting offended, especially cos your fucking scottish and would seem to have knowledge of the north as nuanced as the Talibans critique of Buddhist architeture.

Ouch! That's tossing the caber talk, ye know?!

 

[Chorlton]

All the wee chucks I know refuse to support northern ireland, wankers the lot of them, especially when the Republics team is the england b side!

sorry? would you expect the 'wee chucks' or anyone with any sense of right and wrong for that matter to support northern ireland after the treatment of neil lennon? Fuck Them, fuck their fans - this County Antrim born man would sooner seen england put 20 past the bastards



i'm confused, why is the republics team the england 'b' side? (not that i have a lotta love for them either)

 

[revol68]

right so the actions of a very small minority of gobshites comdemn the whole team and their entire fanbase. well thats not at all bigotted, unfortunatley it's tpyical of the mentality that has kept communla politics alive an well in the north Gobshite!

as for the Republic being the england b side well i'd have thought that was obvious, the fact that half of them are only in it cos their great granny got up the duff whilst pissed on guinness.

 

[Chorlton]

right so the actions of a very small minority of gobshites comdemn the whole team and their entire fanbase. well thats not at all bigotted, unfortunatley it's tpyical of the mentality that has kept communla politics alive an well in the north

When the fans of a football team decide that they no longer want their captain because of his religion and the team he plays for then yes: Fuck them.

I used to go to windsor park (did you? have you ever been?) to watch NI first team and the U21's - i had friends and family that played at u21 level - kids gettin all sorts of grief for bein fenians or having a particular surname - I have been told of these great strides that have been taken since then... i'll believe it when i see it (no, i have no desire whatsoever to go back over and go back there). fuck them, fuck their fans.

Tell me, tell me about your experiences at the bastion of cross-community relations that is Windsor Park?

Gobshite!

cheers

as for the Republic being the england b side well i'd have thought that was obvious, the fact that half of them are only in it cos their great granny got up the duff whilst pissed on guinness.

i shouldn't have to lecture you onthe reasons for people leaving ireland and starting families elsewhere the children of these immigrants still may feel a stronfg affinity with the land of their parents - while its also true that some may choose to play for other reasons it doesn't get away from the fact that what you say is pretty fucken insulting to anyone who may be proud of an irish background - we're not talking about 19th generation irish-americans here

 

[revol68]

Well yes i've been to Windsor park and had to listen to some awful shite, i've a friend who got a kicking outside of the ground for being a fenian. But the point is that it's a very vocal minority that is responsible for this, and attitudes like yours does nothing to help.

Should all Celtic fans be told to fuck off cause some of them have sectarian views? How about those ones who cheered on IRA atrocities? You just can't make such generalised judgements like that.

my point about the england b side was mostly a joke, but I think there is something pathetic about people being proud of being "Oirish" and too be honest. And why should someone be anymore proud of their families place of origin than they should have of being born with 2 feet? It's purely abitrary.

Anyway you've probably guessed that i have no pride in being Irish myself nor any in being British. Fuck national allegiances and espeically fuck them when they they are sugar coated in "cultural pride" etc.

Where abouts in Co. Antrim are you from?

 

[Chorlton]

Well yes i've been to Windsor park and had to listen to some awful shite, i've a friend who got a kicking outside of the ground for being a fenian. But the point is that it's a very vocal minority that is responsible for this, and attitudes like yours does nothing to help.

you've got a mate who was kicked in outside the ground on the grounds of his religion and you don't understand why i don't support them?

i don't believe you

Should all Celtic fans be told to fuck off cause some of them have sectarian views?

no more than any crystal palace fans should be told to fuck off.

you are falling into the age-old media trap of believing that the green half of glasgow has the same problems of sectarianism as those cunts on the other side. They do not. Nor are they comparable with the supporters of NI - not by a long shot.

Celtic fans are no angels - some utter wallopers in fact, but they are million miles from that other shower.

How about those ones who cheered on IRA atrocities?

what atrocities? i can't recall any being 'cheered' in my time going to celtic park

my point about the england b side was mostly a joke,

GOOD ONE!!!

but I think there is something pathetic about people being proud of being "Oirish" and too be honest. And why should someone be anymore proud of their families place of origin than they should have of being born with 2 feet? It's purely abitrary.

a lot of people have a lot of pride in who they are and where they came from - maybe you don't understand it - but you might want to think about being a little more respectful about it...

Anyway you've probably guessed <snip>

i don't much care - i do care about being lectured to about who i should support and who i shouldn't. But i care little for you or your background. You have already lectured me on who i don't support and you have already called me a gobshite - why in the name of fuck do you think i care a fuck about you?

Where abouts in Co. Antrim are you from?

What the fuck does it matter to you? Are you trying to work out a picture of whether i am some belfast 'chucky' head or some muck savage from ballycastle with a hurly on me desk as i type?

North Antrim coast for what its worth.

 

[revol68]

sorry but i didn't tell you who to support i responded to your sweeping condemnation of all northern ireland fans and even the team.

As for Celtic fans not being as sectarian as rangers ones, well im perhaps willing to accept that as true in glasgow but it certainly isn't in northern ireland. The sectarianism of celtic fans and republicans in general is just less overt and plays on a constrution of victim identity, whilst loyalists tend to have the subtelty of Hesky and think of themselves as superior to "fenians". Of course the "victimhood" of catholics is just as much about feeling smug and superior as the prods blatant approach.

THe whole way you discuss rangers fans as "that shower" is just typical of the sort of blanket condemnation that so many in northern ireland seem to go in for.

As for cheerleading IRA atrocities well I remember a group of Celtic fans getting on the Larne ferry and chanting things about the Shankill bombing, they also had a wee ditty about St Sean Kelly but i can't recall it. As a Celtic fan from Larne I was quite disgusted. Thats just one incident out of many i've encountered with other Celtic fans.

And the reason I asked about where your from is cause im from Larne and was just curious. And yes your right perhaps I was trying to get a glimpse into what your like, but I can't really see many muck savages who play Hurley positng on Urban. Though Im sure me telling you im from Larne now has you imagining me typing in a Balaclava and pipe bomb on my desk.

 

[Chorlton]

Though Im sure me telling you im from Larne now has you imagining me typing in a Balaclava and pipe bomb on my desk.

no, seriously - i couldn't give a fuck about you.

off to the pub, may take time to respond to the rest of yer drivel tomorrow.


toodle pip

x.

 

[fanta]

North Antrim coast for what its worth.

Know it well! Spent a while in that throbbing cultural metropolis Portrush for a few years.

revol68 - nothing personal, but Larne is fucking horrible. Ballycastle can be hicky but it is pretty, at least.

At least I spent time growing up around the north Antrim coast whch is itself stunningly beautiful.

 

[revol68]

yes larne is fucking horrible, though it's shitness is part of it's character and it gets me proletarian points off lefties.

 

[cemertyone]

northern irish supporters would still tend to see themselves as Irish in relation the English, they still see themselves as British, but sure thats just a truer reflection of geography, after all Ireland is a British Isle.


All the wee chucks I know refuse to support northern ireland, wankers the lot of them, especially when the Republics team is the england b side!

and can arseholes like Dilzybhoy stop acting offended, especially cos your fucking scottish and would seem to have knowledge of the north as nuanced as the Talibans critique of Buddhist architeture.

Maggie Thatcher...Winson Churchill....your boys took a HAMMERING..........

 

[bolshiebhoy]

I can't really see many muck savages who play Hurley positng on Urban.

That's where you would be wrong old chap. Here's one. A noble sport that has survived the 'attention' of the RUC in the six county slum.

For the record the reason your chuck mates don't support the Orange Mens II even when they play the master race across the water might - amongst other factors - have something to do with the total cowardice of the six counties team and officials in the face of the threats to the life of Neil Lennon.

 

[revol68]

hurling isn't a spor it's a punishment beating with goal posts.

And im sorry but chucks didn't support N Ireland before Neil Lennon was treated so disgustingy, so it makes no sense.

Now I can understand why people would have no desire to sit at windsor park and take abuse from (a minority) of gobshites but is it that hard to get over your piss poor nationalist politics and cheer them on from your armchair?

 

[bolshiebhoy]

hurling isn't a spor it's a punishment beating with goal posts.

You read that on a bog wall in a UDA drinking den?

And im sorry but chucks didn't support N Ireland before Neil Lennon was treated so disgustingy, so it makes no sense.

Hang on, allegedly things are better than they used to be...

Now I can understand why people would have no desire to sit at windsor park and take abuse from (a minority) of gobshites but is it that hard to get over your piss poor nationalist politics and cheer them on from your armchair?

And support a 'northern ireland' identity that has no logic outside of sectarianism?

 

[revol68]

no, my mum made that joke, she was made to play hurling at school (can't remember how to spell kamogy )

Things are getting a bit better but I still understand why most catholics would hardly relish going to Windsor park.

As for "northern irish identity" how is it based on sectarianism anymore than identifying with the republic? I know plenty of people who refer to themselves as northern irish in order to avoid the british or irish label.

Oh thats right cos the north is an illegitimate state that has fiendishly usurped the irish nations grand teology!

Arsehole!

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Oh thats right cos the north is an illegitimate state that has fiendishly usurped the irish nations grand teology!

Did you mean teleology?

Arsehole!

Pithy!

 

[Nigel Irritable]

no, my mum made that joke, she was made to play hurling at school (can't remember how to spell kamogy )

Camogie.

And you're dead wrong about hurling by the way. I have little time for gaelic football, which is basically just a not particularly interesting local variant of a game which is played everywhere. Hurling is different though. It's the fastest field sport in the world and involves quite ludicrous levels of skill and bravery.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

Indeed it is. Mind you I doubt either of you would like my father's home parish team, the aptly named Fenian's Hurling Club

 

[Dilzybhoy]

and can arseholes like Dilzybhoy stop acting offended, especially cos your fucking scottish and would seem to have knowledge of the north as nuanced as the Talibans critique of Buddhist architeture.

Hold on one wee minute son.
Where did I act offended?
Fucking prick!!!

 

[Dilzybhoy]

sorry? would you expect the 'wee chucks' or anyone with any sense of right and wrong for that matter to support northern ireland after the treatment of neil lennon? Fuck Them, fuck their fans - this County Antrim born man would sooner seen england put 20 past the bastards

Exactly!!!

 

[Dilzybhoy]

right so the actions of a very small minority of gobshites comdemn the whole team and their entire fanbase. well thats not at all bigotted, unfortunatley it's tpyical of the mentality that has kept communla politics alive an well in the north Gobshite!

Bollocks it's most of them and you fucking know well enough that it is.
What with the sash being sung at every game. Do you really think a catholic would feel welcome in that environment?
No I know you don't.
Take the show grounds in Ballymena for instance. It's like being at a fucking mini Ibrox.

 

[revol68]

right so because you wouldn't feel comfortbale that makes all northern ireland fans bigots? The other thing is that lots of northern irish fans no longer go to windsor cos of the bigots but still support them when they play on the telly.

Would a prod feel particularly comfortable at Celtic park? No, of course not. Does that mean he can't turn around and denounce every celtic support as a "shower" of bigots?

And seriously dickface, i know loads of people from catholic and prod backgronds who support both the republic and northern ireland.

 

[Chorlton]

r
Would a prod feel particularly comfortable at Celtic park? No, of course not.

you really do talk some utter fucken balls

I know plenty of 'prods' that feel very fucken comfortable indeed at Celtic Park - why the fuck wouldn't they? In fact go on the Scottish football thread and you will meet plenty who do.

actually don't bother, stay here and talk shite.....

 

[cathal marcs]

Would a prod feel particularly comfortable at Celtic park? No, of course not.


.

Im from a Plymouth Brethren background and the only thing I feel uncomfortable about at Celtic park is the lack of 'any' singing too many tartan blankets in the wind if you catch my drift comrade.

G-d even last saturday there was a good atmosphere and the sad gits whove 'got to beat the traffic' whom leave in the 80th minute is cringeworthy.

 

[cemertyone]

no, my mum made that joke, she was made to play hurling at school (can't remember how to spell kamogy )
!

Don`t you actually man that you can`t spell it i wonder?????

 

[Dilzybhoy]

right so because you wouldn't feel comfortbale that makes all northern ireland fans bigots? The other thing is that lots of northern irish fans no longer go to windsor cos of the bigots but still support them when they play on the telly.

Would a prod feel particularly comfortable at Celtic park? No, of course not. Does that mean he can't turn around and denounce every celtic support as a "shower" of bigots?

And seriously dickface, i know loads of people from catholic and prod backgronds who support both the republic and northern ireland.

My nomination for the most fuckwitted post of the year.
Jock Stein seemed pretty comfortable.
I know plenty "prods" who support the hoops.
Some of my family in Antrim like to see the six counties win. They won't go and watch them but they don't mind them winning.
My cousin used to go down to the showgrounds and watch Ballymena Utd play but get fed up with the uvf chants etc.. As did I when going to watch Motherwell.
I'll grant you that it is no where near as bad as it once was at Ballymena. And is now non existent at Motherwell.
I never denounced every six counties supporter as bigots. I just said most. Dickhead.
Remember they played england at old trafford? They had pipers playing the sash ffs.

 

[Red Faction]

Republicanism is smug in that it sees those people who don't embrace it as somehow being dupes of British imperialsim/ fascists.

I'm a republican.
And for what it's worth, I dont see you as being a dupe of British imperialism.
I see you for what you are, a bitter little cunt.

 

[oi2002]

no, my mum made that joke, she was made to play hurling at school (can't remember how to spell kamogy...

Given a choice between playing Camogie and a punishment beating take the beating. Those women are lethal I tell you; they should never be allowed out with sticks.