What has the Israeli/Palestinian issue got to do us?

[nino_savatte]

Well they did have some discussions about the Joos:

This appears to have gone largely unreported. The Baghdadi Jews should have both the right of return and to recover their citizenship.

The other group that gets little mention is the Iraqi Armenians.

 

[Lock&Light]

There is a contradiction in what you say, because each term is defined by a different city. Byzantium is the ancient greek name of the city now known as Istanbul. The Late Roman empire split into West (centre: Rome) and East/Byzantine (centre: Byzantium/Constantinople).

Although historians now use the name 'Byzantium Empire' the people of the eastern empire continued to call their state 'The Roman Empire' until its fall.

 

[nino_savatte]

Although historians now use the name 'Byzantium Empire' the people of the eastern empire continued to call their state 'The Roman Empire' until its fall.

Sorry, but it was called the "Byzantine Empire". Byzantium was the city that Constantine the Great transformed into Constantinople.

 

[nino_savatte]

Don't believe me? Try reading some Cyril Mango or Steven Runciman.

 

[Lock&Light]

Sorry, but it was called the "Byzantine Empire". Byzantium was the city that Constantine the Great transformed into Constantinople.

Nevertheless all the Byzantian emperors called themselves 'Roman Emperors'. If you don't believe me then, "frankly, dear, I don't give a damn."

 

[nino_savatte]

Nevertheless all the Byzantian emperors called themselves 'Roman Emperors'. If you don't believe me then, "frankly, dear, I don't give a damn."

You aren't telling me something that I didn't already know. The Ottoman and Seljuk Turks also referred to them as "Romans".

The word is BYZANTINE

Your point is?

 

[Lock&Light]

The word is BYZANTINE

Historians didn't start referring to it as such until well after it had been swept away.

 

[nino_savatte]

Historians didn't start referring to it as such until well after it had been swept away.

Give me bleedin' strength!

 

[Lock&Light]

Give me bleedin' strength!

I expect you need it.

 

[nino_savatte]

I expect you need it.

You what? You're a smug, self-satisfied wee shite aren't you?

On your bike.

 

[Lock&Light]

You what? You're a smug, self-satisfied wee shite aren't you?

On your bike.

Temper, temper, young fellow me lad.

 

[nino_savatte]

Temper, temper, young fellow me lad.

Like I said, you're a smug, self-satisfied wee shite. Your posts weren't even relevant and it is obvious that you neither read the thread nor comprehended their contents.

This ground has already been covered - you're too late.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

...What the hell do people want the Israelis to do...

Go back to 1967 borders, i.e. stop breaching UN resolutions.

Stop the building and expansion of illegal settlements and the illegal attempts to expand and expand territory even further.

Take down the wall.

Stop shooting and killing children, peace activists and journalists. (NB: there is a huuuuuuuge difference between the obviously illegal suicide bombings and an official state turning a blind eye i.e. effectively condoning shootings by its soldiers.

......It is not our situation to sort out, it has nothing to do with us.

Having set the land grab of Palestinian territory in train through the Balfour Declaration in 1948, I'd say we have a moral obligation to try to sort this out, it has everything to do with us, it's our fault for handing over a British protectorate, 'colonial' lands that did not, in fact, belong to us and weren't ours to give away.