BristolEcho
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Also the ineffectiveness of trade unions, the restraints they work under and that the Idea of workplace organising is fairly alien to many in my experience doesn't help either.
What Happened to Wages?
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MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Having attended a Ken Dodd show (in the audience) I can attest to that but he was funny.
I think you can do that all by yourself
I thought he was absolutely hilarious. I loved it when he came to do a show. Not just because we all got paid more, but because it meant I got to see him.
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
don’t boast about your lavish lifestyle and then come across with faux disbelief that the young guns - in spite of what George Michael said - aren’t having so much fun
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
Yeah. 30 years ago, I worked part-time in a supermarket and we got paid double time on a Sunday. Then when I worked part-time in pubs, it was double time on BHs* and a day off in lieu. Imagine there's none of that now.
*Not that I ever really used to work BHs apart from at Christmas as the full timers would generally volunteer.
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Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Do you have to be so gratuitously unpleasant?
Personal Attacks
how’s about this for being gratuitously unpleasant.
listen you fucking acid victim - Audi Man told me to go have a wank over Priti Patel (gratuitous and unpleasant and objectifying of women - all in one)
can I ask you, to keep your oar out?
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JimW
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I spent a couple of years doing shift work in a car parts factory in my early twenties and we got a bonus if we hit rates that had been set by careful busy slacking so were easy and time and a half for hours over eight (you could do twelve). On the night shift you could get a full shift's pay with max bones and take a few hours kip if you hid yourself away in the tool room.
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
Fucking acid victim?
How about sleeping off whatever it is you're on?
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
i worked at the same place for 18 years until just over 4 years ago, being in the same place so long meant you could measure the loss of benefits more than if you moved jobs.
At one point in the early noughties they gave us an extra day of holiday per year, just for nothing, I think there’d been some extra royal BH that year and they decided to just keep giving us that extra day forever more. That was the kind of high point of their generosity.
After that it was the loss of final salary pension (first to new starters, then to everyone), then none of the new staff got Christmas bonuses (1% salary), then post-recession they moved everyone from 37.5hrs to 40hrs with a tiny amount of compensation (like a 1.5% rise, so an hourly pay cut for all), to ‘remain competitive’ whilst all the time boasting of how they were increasing the share price and dividends (share price more than doubled).
The whole atmosphere and working culture just went down the toilet over a decade or so, demoralised experienced staff leaving, probably not seen as a bad thing as they’d get someone new in at a lower wage with less benefits. Proper race to the bottom stuff, and been going on for a couple of decades now. Glad to be out of it, I’m now in the ‘unproductive’ part of the economy doing something worthwhile for half the money. Fuck ‘em.
At one point in the early noughties they gave us an extra day of holiday per year, just for nothing, I think there’d been some extra royal BH that year and they decided to just keep giving us that extra day forever more. That was the kind of high point of their generosity.
After that it was the loss of final salary pension (first to new starters, then to everyone), then none of the new staff got Christmas bonuses (1% salary), then post-recession they moved everyone from 37.5hrs to 40hrs with a tiny amount of compensation (like a 1.5% rise, so an hourly pay cut for all), to ‘remain competitive’ whilst all the time boasting of how they were increasing the share price and dividends (share price more than doubled).
The whole atmosphere and working culture just went down the toilet over a decade or so, demoralised experienced staff leaving, probably not seen as a bad thing as they’d get someone new in at a lower wage with less benefits. Proper race to the bottom stuff, and been going on for a couple of decades now. Glad to be out of it, I’m now in the ‘unproductive’ part of the economy doing something worthwhile for half the money. Fuck ‘em.
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
LDC
Normie ultra left and proud
You really are coming across as a fucked up prick atm, do you really need to play out your issues all across this forum? Piss off somewhere else.
Disruptive Conduct
angry worker makes angry post.
tell me, are you qualified in psychiatric areas which permit you to outline a persons ‘issues’ ?
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
Takes me back to a summer working at Butlins in the 70s - they had a couple of late night cabarets each week. Dodd was a regular and the place was always rammed. The only time we got tipped for waiting tables.
Didn't know at the time he was dodging the taxman
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Of course you can ask.
You have as much chance as a fart in a hurricane of me complying with your request, but you can ask.
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
Oh there's a fair bit of that still in some sectors!Yeah. 30 years ago, I worked part-time in a supermarket and we got paid double time on a Sunday. Then when I worked part-time in pubs, it was double time on BHs* and a day off in lieu. Imagine there's none of that now.
*Not that I ever really used to work BHs apart from at Christmas as the full timers would generally volunteer.
One of my sons finished his apprenticeship last year. He volunteered for a 12hour shift on Boxing Day for which he got a £150 bonus for turning up plus triple time plus a day off in lieu. To top it off they finished the job in seven hours and went home, but still got paid for the full shift.
He reckons he'll hit £60k this year. Although that is for working 45 to 50 hours a week, round the clock shifts, and weekends/bank holidays. Then again a lot of people do that level of overtime and don't get paid for it (teachers, white collar workers, etc) and a lot more do those hours and won't see half that money.
The benefits of a strong union and a skills shortage in a manual/technical job that can't be offshored.
His brother on the other hand is still taking causal shifts warehousing.
which trade is your son in?
Things detioriating under capitalism shocker
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
He's a railway signalling technician.
nice - must be hard graft - still a proper job though
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
It's variable, but he reckons the best thing about it is that when he clocks off he doesn't take it home with him.
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He's off this thread too with a bagful of warning points for his trouble.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
A man after my own heartI supplement my wage by doing fuck all in company time. Skivers unite!
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