What DOES the Bilderberg Group do?

[EddyBlack]

A new world order!

Bilderburg man Gordon Brown


Or ‘globalisation’. Open them markets.

It’s a historical vision. H.G Wells would be proud
GORDON 'NEW WORLD ORDER' BROWN MANSION SPEECH 2007


BILDERBURG MAN HENRY KISSINGER – speaks about globalization and a NWO
Kissinger NWO again


BILDERBURG MAN BILL CLINTON - Bill Clinton agrees with Bush about the New World Order

 

[editor]

I just love BB 'discussions' that takes the shape of a listing of YouTube videos.

No need to use words. Just link! We've all got nothing better to do than sift through long videos trying to discover what your point is!

 

[EddyBlack]

The point was that they are all into this globalistion thing. And that they have this idea of a 'New World Order'. Kissinger, Clinton, Blair, Brown, Rockefeller. This is their ideology.

They are also all Bilderburg luminaries. This was my response to the, do they have any 'underlying policy?' question.

The videos aren't very long I don't think, but this is what they are about anyway. The Kissinger one goes on a bit, but the others are a minute or two.

 

[Kizmet]

The New World Order!

Are you so deeply in love with the old world order that you're unable to contemplate a new one?

 

[EddyBlack]

No... it wasn't. Financial and corporate elites have always been at the kings ear. And it will always be. And should always be.. it's our task to choose governers who listen to them only when necessary.

I would rather be govened by elected representitives of the public. We are instead governed to a large extent by the corporate and financial elite. Bilderburg in my opinion (and the opinion of Lord Healy) is about allowing this to happen.

What the Bilderberg group does do is allow this communication to be spread globally. Which (in a way) is far far safer.. the more interests there are the more likely there will be a conflict of interests and the less likely anything will get done.

Get done for the benefit of whom?

What have been the effects of globalism for the majority? And how about the few?

It merely extends the reach of the elite, economically, politically. Not to forget the influential media persons who attend Bilderburg.

Your comments clearly suggest that you aknowledge Bilderburg's true role, but that you think it is a good and beneficial thing. This is where we disagree.

 

[8den]

I would rather be govened by elected representitives of the public. We are instead governed to a large extent by the corporate and financial elite. Bilderburg in my opinion (and the opinion of Lord Healy) is about allowing this to happen.

So you're in favour of a New World Order? Because what you are describing is business as usual.

Get done for the benefit of whom?

Why do you assume malice behind their meetings?

What have been the effects of globalism for the majority? And how about the few?

It merely extends the reach of the elite, economically, politically. Not to forget the influential media persons who attend Bilderburg.

Your comments clearly suggest that you aknowledge Bilderburg's true role, but that you think it is a good and beneficial thing. This is where we disagree.

Of let me get this clear, an informal talking shop between the elite and powerful is something dangerous.

Out of curiousity what alternative system do you suggest?

 

[8ball]

Bilderberg is a rather dull summer camp for pensioners.

 

[Badger Kitten]

No that's Bohemian Grove. Bilderberg is when they stay in a hotel for 4 days and play golf and arrange jobs and directorships for each other when they finish office.

 

[8ball]

Ah yes - that's right.

Bilderberg is the golf one.

 

[EddyBlack]

Ah yes - that's right.

Bilderberg is the golf one.

Golf, drinking beer and just hanging out.

 

[Kizmet]

And shaping the political and economic climate of our world. But then they do that anyway, don't they?

 

[8ball]

And shaping the political and economic climate of our world. But then they do that anyway, don't they?

Which is why they need some chill time now and then.

 

[Kizmet]

I would rather be govened by elected representitives of the public. We are instead governed to a large extent by the corporate and financial elite. Bilderburg in my opinion (and the opinion of Lord Healy) is about allowing this to happen.

Yes. But so?

Get done for the benefit of whom?

What have been the effects of globalism for the majority? And how about the few?

Globalism isn't a choice, dude.

It merely extends the reach of the elite, economically, politically. Not to forget the influential media persons who attend Bilderburg.

Your comments clearly suggest that you aknowledge Bilderburg's true role, but that you think it is a good and beneficial thing. This is where we disagree.

I didn't say it was a good and beneficial thing nor a bad thing. It's just a thing. A natural extension of our financial and political systems in a technological age.

Almost predictable.

Whether it is a good or bad thing depends on each situation and your own personal perspective on it.

However... in my opinion.. it's safer to have more active members with seperate interests because more of those interests may conincide with mine or yours.

 

[Kizmet]

Which is why they need some chill time now and then.

I'm not entirely clear on your postion on it.. do you think it's only social? Or not at all. Or a mix?

 

[8ball]

I'm not entirely clear on your postion on it.. do you think it's only social? Or not at all. Or a mix?

I don't think Bilderberg is where the real power is brokered any more, but these things always have a bit of work and a bit of play, then again work and play are pretty much the same to this lot.

 

[Kizmet]

Aye. Fair enough.

 

[ivebeenhigh]

Mark Ronson knows:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,449284,00.html

he does?

 

[EddyBlack]

Yes. But so?

Globalism isn't a choice, dude.

I didn't say it was a good and beneficial thing nor a bad thing. It's just a thing. A natural extension of our financial and political systems in a technological age.

Almost predictable.

Whether it is a good or bad thing depends on each situation and your own personal perspective on it.

However... in my opinion.. it's safer to have more active members with seperate interests because more of those interests may conincide with mine or yours.

It is mistakenly believed by many that the World bank is a co-operative of states who provide its funding. It is in fact funded privately.

The purpose of the world bank is not to encourage development and relieve poverty in the third world as they say it is. Its purpose is to make money. Institutions like the World Bank are one of the drivers of globilisation.

Its Structural Adjustment Programmes have been implemented throughout the world. These programmes ensure debt repayment and economic re-structuring. Debt repayment is made priority, whilst healthcare, education, development etc. are cut back. In effect, the standard of living is reduced, whilst the country is controlled by the Bank. These countries become nothing more than workers for the banks.

In these countries, under the banks conrol, industries are privatized, economies are ‘liberalised’ etc. Corporations can come in and buy up the newly privatised industries for next to nothing.

 

[Kizmet]

It is mistakenly believed by many that the World bank is a co-operative of states who provide its funding. It is in fact funded privately.

The purpose of the world bank is not to encourage development and relieve poverty in the third world as they say it is. Its purpose is to make money. Institutions like the World Bank are one of the drivers of globilisation.

Its Structural Adjustment Programmes have been implemented throughout the world. These programmes ensure debt repayment and economic re-structuring. Debt repayment is made priority, whilst healthcare, education, development etc. are cut back. In effect, the standard of living is reduced, whilst the country is controlled by the Bank. These countries become nothing more than workers for the banks.

In these countries, under the banks conrol, industries are privatized, economies are ‘liberalised’ etc. Corporations can come in and buy up the newly privatised industries for next to nothing.

A lot of what you say depends upo your perspective. Some might ask what alternatives there are in a capitalist environment for such debt-ridden countries?

But I can't really see what you're getting at. It's like you're saying that there is something terrible going on.. but haven't actually said what it is beyond some fairly generic stuff about globalisation.

 

[EddyBlack]

I'm saying that this is the face of globalisation. I do not think it depends on your perspective. It is good for the elite and bad for the subservient nations.

I think the era of globilisation is something new. It is sort of like a modern imperialist venture, but on a global scale. A global system, controlled by the few.

 

[Kizmet]

Of course globalisation is new. It's entirely as a result of communication and transportation techniques developed post war.

And it's inevitable. Since we're already 'controlled' by the few in your opinion.. what about it bugs you particularly?

 

[EddyBlack]

Perhaps it is seen as inevitable because amongst many other important political leaders, the likes of Brown and Blair adopt the same views as the likes of David Rockefeller.

I think Bilderburg is a bad thing. I have said why already.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

What does bildeburg do?

I dont know. But one of their principle founders was a dutch nazi prince.

That's bad enough for going on with, seeing as they've been top level elite decision makers since the nazi period.

It's easy enough to make assumptions about the what "New World Order" might imply.

But here's an early usage:

"National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishing of a new world order." - Adolf Hitler

Now google "operation paperclip"

Bilderberg roots are suspicious at best. We know they are secret meetings of an unaccountable global elite. We know we cant name most of the people there. We know the elite have learned much since the early 20th century, and that the world and technology have changed much.

On balance Bilderburg is probably very bad news.

 

[Kizmet]

Perhaps it is seen as inevitable because amongst many other important political leaders, the likes of Brown and Blair adopt the same views as the likes of David Rockefeller.

It's seen as inevitable because we have the ability to do it.. so we will.

I just don't get it.. what are you suggesting as an alternative?

Stopping people trading information acoss borders? How would that work?

I think Bilderburg is a bad thing. I have said why already.

Not specifically, you haven't. Just in a general way.

 

[Kizmet]

What does bildeburg do?

I dont know. But one of their principle founders was a dutch nazi prince.

That's bad enough for going on with, seeing as they've been top level elite decision makers since the nazi period.

It's easy enough to make assumptions about the what "New World Order" might imply.

But here's an early usage:

"National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishing of a new world order." - Adolf Hitler

Now google "operation paperclip"

Bilderberg roots are suspicious at best. We know they are secret meetings of an unaccountable global elite. We know we cant name most of the people there. We know the elite have learned much since the early 20th century, and that the world and technology have changed much.

On balance Bilderburg is probably very bad news.

Why do you say that? Again.. putting aside all the rhetoric.. in actual example.. tell me what it is you're afraid of?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Why do you say that? Again.. putting aside all the rhetoric.. in actual example.. tell me what it is you're afraid of?

Looking at some of the stuff the elite do, I am afraid of every opportunity they have to unaccountably meet and discuss / plan global affairs at private at a forum first founded by a nazi.

 

[EddyBlack]

It's seen as inevitable because we have the ability to do it.. so we will.

I just don't get it.. what are you suggesting as an alternative?

Stopping people trading information acoss borders? How would that work?



Not specifically, you haven't. Just in a general way.

I can't see how this has anything to do with what I have been saying. Trading information???

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

 

[editor]

Looking at some of the stuff the elite do, I am afraid of every opportunity they have to unaccountably meet and discuss / plan global affairs at private at a forum first founded by a nazi.

Are you afraid of the Volkswagen Beetle too?

 

[EddyBlack]

Who are they?