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What Does 'Punk' Mean To You?

A bit of a late entry thing for me: mainly No Future / Secret stuff. Still like the occassional listen to Blitz, The Partisan, Test Tube Babies, Infa Riot, Chron Gen.

Great thing about it was making my own clothes, annoying the security staff at shopping centres and 2 bottles of Merrydown Gold Label across the woods with some mates and a ghetto blaster.

Not so great things: never getting in anywhere, police cars slowing down and kerb crawling you. The advent of "soccer casuals" which meant everytime I left my own wee town, even it was to go to a draughty community centre in a town 4 miles away, I took my life in my hands. But it was still worth it to buy a poor sound quality C-60 demo of the support band.
 
I was never "a punk", but originally a metal kid who liked the DIY attitude and speed of punk more than the macho posturing of metal, and eventually became more influenced by hardcore than metal. It was also the main reason I didn't do any drugs in the early rave days - I'd already stopped drinking/smoking etc because I'd gone "straight edge" (in the original punk sense), so dancing on drugs seemed irrelevant to me.

Musically, the first bands I liked were the early 80s bands like Discharge, Exploited, GBH, Vice Squad etc, but I soon got more into US hardcore like Minor Threat, SSD, Infest, the early Revelation bands, as well as some of the faster European bands like Larm/Heresy/Ripcord etc, then onto power violence bands like Spazz/Charles Bronson/Capitalist Casualties, NYHC like SOIA/ Shutdown/Indecision... I could go on... but you know what I mean. ;)

I haven't been to a HC gig since the Red Eye in Islington closed though. I'm too old to mosh now, and I'm not into just standing around, so I can't see the point. :) But I still love the tunes. :D
 
i these modern times 'punk' means asshole. in the ammerican stylee. what it useta mean is historical . like hippy. or mod.//
outta date..it now has a new meaning. i.e. amercain asshole.
sorry . bit punk is histiry. /attitudes live on though.
 
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It means Gene Vincent and the Bluecaps circa 1956 - listen to Who Slapped John

It means Vince Taylor's Brand New Cadillac

It means Maron Brando in The Wild One

It means The Who's My Generation

It means The Sex Pistol's Nevermind the bollocks

It means The Clash

It means Motorhead's Ace of Spades and St Valentine's Day Massacre (with Girlschool)

It means Nirvana's Incesticide

;)
 
sex pistols and the silver jubilee when i was at school, dancing to frigging in the rigging at the scout disco then a bit later loving the DKs and Subhumans. :D
 
saucisson said:
sex pistols and the silver jubilee when i was at school, dancing to frigging in the rigging at the scout disco then a bit later loving the DKs and Subhumans. :D

Oh mercy :eek:

If ever there were conclusive proof that the Pistols only had three good singles in them it was that.

Malcome McLaren... KILLED IN THE FUCKING FACE. Bandwagon jumping CUNT!!! :mad:
 
I hope you all saw, or will see (no doubt it will be repeated), the BBC4 documentary about how the New York music scene evolved post-67 ... the connections between proto-punk / new wave, disco, house and hiphop was something I'd never considered before. :cool:
 
Certainly did. It was a good doc, but it could have done with an hour for each, really.

There's quite a bit about those links in some of the books relating to the development and history of those NYC scenes... Love Saves the Day, New York Noise and some of the CBGBs ones, too.

:)
 
Jumping into a mosh, giving and recieving punches from and to all angles, being aware of nose bleeding and chipped teeth, and carrying on going, to the soundtrack of desperate chaos.

Was fun for a while. Bit fucking passe now though.
 
Some people would say there's more to it than that.

It's a pretty ambiguous term, varying depending on whom you're speaking to...
 
so ive just got in from seeing AIM (downtempo beats/ hip hop) and as much as i love them and like to "groove" it up to them, there is nothing like a good punk show and a pit.

last week, local punk gig put on by my mate, lots of black clothing and standing around listening to mediocre music. But i loves it!

my teens where in the late 1990's so im a NoFX, citizen fish, leftover crack, the unseen, rancid kind of guy. I appreciate the subhumans, stiff little fingers, the clash, the vibrators, 999, etc for inspiring many generations to play, make fanzines, put on small gigs that barely break even, dress like dirtbags, but feel COOL.

saw a shit peice of graffiti sprayed on a bridge in the middle of nowhere today whilst riding my bike: "punks not dead"

certainly isnt!
ROCK ON! :D
 
The Sex Pistols failing to turn up for their own gigs twice, and then us fooling them by not showing up the one time they actually did play (although they were apparently complete crap due to new member Sid having no clue how to play the bass and Steve Jones being totally off his face and taking the piss out of Sid.)

Seeing the Damned do one of the best gigs I've ever been to in my life.

Seeing Siouxie, or maybe it was the singer from Penetration (the support act) break some guy's face with the base of her mike stand for gobbing on her. Very funny. He lay unconcious on the dance floor for quite a while.

Not being particularly impressed with the Ramones' support band at Erics, some geek who looked like Anthony Perkins singing something about a 'Psycho Killer' and us heading for the bar. Seeing the Ramones in their heyday.

Discovering that a judicious mixture of speed and special brew can under certain circumstances that sensible people would definitely want to avoid, be a performance enhancing drug (but not when trying to have sex in a toilet)

Ending up in casualty, too often, after the speed and special brew wore off.
 
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moose said:
To me it mainly meant sitting on the steps of Boots in Manchester on a Saturday afternoon, wearing ripped fishnets, tartan mini and holey mohair jumper, and drinking cider. Then jumping up and down a lot in the Mayflower or the Russell Club, prior to being sick. :)
Also spending days in obscure bus stations trailing round after UK Subs. The best of times :cool:

The smell of hairspray and warm leather takes me right back.

10/10 .. that smell was everywhere. Moose is the winner IMO :cool:
Leeds Fan Club, Liverpool Eric's. quallude lotion. Third World .. Now that we've found love is a good un IMO or Rennaissance .. The Northern Lights. Fuckin hell that takes me right back. I done Isla to that song in The Spotted Dog in Willesden Green. We loved all sorts me and Isla .. bit of reggae and northern soul. But mainly we were fuckin punk rockers until she got that fuckin poxy job. I had to leave it alone. There was millions more gals out there and I met about forty of em in The ship in Wardour Street. They thought I was Paul Simenon. I fuckin wished I was him to be fair and if you aim big, stay strong and well .. never say die .. well then you can do fuckin anything cos you're the donkeys bollocks. So I fuckin said I was him ya no wo' I mean innit fackin tourin is shit wo' you gals up to yer after a portion is my bet heh heh heh. Piece of piss.
Then I pretended I was Howard Devoto .. but that was awful toilet fuck that. I saw Magazine at Huddersfield Polytechnic and went and got some chinese slippers like Howards the next day. Fuckin hell. :o
 
like someone has said, everything.....missing school,
hanging out with the people who were to become icons,
riots in bromley high steet,
posing up the kings road,
the last resort on sunday arvo,
the greyhound, sunday nights,
bands...too many to mention.
the marquee, the round house, the music machine etc....
getting pics taken by tourists.
shocking people.
having my hair as wierd and wonderful as possible,
shopping at oxfam. winkle pickers,
little 1950 mod suits over drain pipe jeans, drape jackets and brothel creepers with a mo hawk.
spitting,
drinking,
drugging,
smashing up posh peoples cars,
rioting,
squatting.
not selling out.
hanging around Bonaparte's record shop.
7 " singles.
bank holidays fighting the soul boys at margate or southend.
falling thro the door at 6am having missed the last train home from a gig.
transforming my school uniform into punk.
leaving home.

abiding by my own internal laws cos they made sense, not the laws made by man for the sake of it.

and at the end of the day do what tho will being the whole of the law.
i haven't changed much to be honest, if someone says do this i say why? ;)
 
ice-is-forming said:
like someone has said, everything.....missing school,
hanging out with the people who were to become icons,
riots in bromley high steet,
posing up the kings road,
the last resort on sunday arvo,
the greyhound, sunday nights,
bands...too many to mention.
the marquee, the round house, the music machine etc....
getting pics taken by tourists.
shocking people.
having my hair as wierd and wonderful as possible,
shopping at oxfam. winkle pickers,
little 1950 mod suits over drain pipe jeans, drape jackets and brothel creepers with a mo hawk.
spitting,
drinking,
drugging,
smashing up posh peoples cars,
rioting,
squatting.
not selling out.
hanging around Bonaparte's record shop.
7 " singles.
bank holidays fighting the soul boys at margate or southend.
falling thro the door at 6am having missed the last train home from a gig.
transforming my school uniform into punk.
leaving home.

abiding by my own internal laws cos they made sense, not the laws made by man for the sake of it.

and at the end of the day do what tho will being the whole of the law.
i haven't changed much to be honest, if someone says do this i say why? ;)


Hippy !!!:p
 
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