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What do you understand fashion to be about?

Spion said:
Ah, cool - the terminology - bubble up, trickle down. Useful. :)
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A very good book on clothing and fashion is one called Fashion as Communication - standard fashion/Cultural studies text book. A really interesting read...even for those who don't like fashion...
 
boohoo said:
Some people feel a huge urge to look different or to retain an identity which doesn't come from copying an idea in a magazine. However the majority of people want to fit in and be accepted by their peers.
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Plus it's a lot easier to buy the clothes that are currently available in the shops than go looking for things that are 'different'.
 
quimcunx said:
Plus it's a lot easier to buy the clothes that are currently available in the shops than go looking for things that are 'different'.
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Yep... this is kinda interesting as it asks the question, how many people are actually interested in looking different. And how many just want a nice looking item to cover their nakedness... and keep warm and all ther other functions.
 
boohoo said:
And how many just want a nice looking item to cover their nakedness... and keep warm and all ther other functions.
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That's me. :) I'm not interested in looking cool or standing out from the crowd, I just want clothes to be warm and comfy - preferably whilst hiding the fat. :cool:
 
Cheesypoof said:
I have little interest in fashion and dont follow it. I dont buy any fashion mags, and I dont buy clothes much either. When I occasionally do, i dont browse i just buy what i like and i tend to have random tastes that have been the same all my life - like fred perry (because the clothes are simply well made) and black leather jackets (cos they look and feel cool in my mind. If no one wore them i would anyway). I team everything with a pagoda red scarf and break the fashion 'rules' of having made up eyes AND lips. I wear false eyelashes too. Every time i meet my mates they compliment how good i look so i must be doing somethin right.

i worked in fashion industry before at Vogue magazine and Glamour and loathed everything those mags stood for. They mean nothing to me.

If i were to choose 'fashion' icons id say Ian Dury is one, as he always looked so effortlessly cool. As a woman, Bjork always looks cool to me, as she has her own sense of style.

I would honestly say I am anti-fashion because I believe that all your clothes, ideas and tastes should come from your own sense of individuality.
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You've described the classic fashion vs style paradox.

Style is that individuality, the ability to take a piece of 'fashion' and twist it to become your own.

Fashion is transient, style isn't :cool:
 
boohoo said:
Yep... this is kinda interesting as it asks the question, how many people are actually interested in looking different. And how many just want a nice looking item to cover their nakedness... and keep warm and all ther other functions.
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I would dress differently from how I do if it was easier to find things that

1. fitted me
2. suited me
3. Also went with things I already own, or could buy.

I would be more fashionable, but also more 'different'.


what I mean on the 3rd one is sometimes I'll find an item i like but it will only really 'go' with something that doesn't fit or suit me.
 
boohoo said:
how many just want a nice looking item to cover their nakedness... and keep warm and all ther other functions.
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Poll!

I'm not bothered about looking different or making a statement with my clothes, so long as i'm warm and comfortable then i'm good. That said, i do appreciate a nice pattern and the virtues of co-ordination, i do like clothes but their primary purpose is not to broadcast an image of myself to the world. Does that make sense
I'm in a waffling mood this morning
anythign to avoid teh washing up:)
 
ShiftyBagLady said:
Poll!

I'm not bothered about looking different or making a statement with my clothes, so long as i'm warm and comfortable then i'm good. That said, i do appreciate a nice pattern and the virtues of co-ordination, i do like clothes but their primary purpose is not to broadcast an image of myself to the world. Does that make sense
I'm in a waffling mood this morning
anythign to avoid teh washing up:)
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Asides from function of providing warmt, they do also serve a purpose of broadcasting an image... and that image might be 'I don't want to be noticed' Then there are the details of what you wear... the smart/scruffy/ conventional..eg... what do you wear at work? Is it standard blouse and skirt from BHS, or trendy blouse and skirt from topshop or trousers and jumper with trainers... etc... all can be quite un-noticable but giving out different messages.
 
boohoo said:
Asides from function of providing warmt, they do also serve a purpose of broadcasting an image... and that image might be 'I don't want to be noticed' Then there are the details of what you wear... the smart/scruffy/ conventional..eg... what do you wear at work? Is it standard blouse and skirt from BHS, or trendy blouse and skirt from topshop or trousers and jumper with trainers... etc... all can be quite un-noticable but giving out different messages.
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It would be quite interesting if you could remove someone from fashion influences for 6 months or a year then let them choose from racks of clothes without the labels on them.
 
quimcunx said:
It would be quite interesting if you could remove someone from fashion influences for 6 months or a year then let them choose from racks of clothes without the labels on them.
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I think it would be quite a difficult experiment to carry out. We are saturated with fashion....everywhere.

still, it would be interesting to get people to choose clothes without knowing the labels.
 
i love clothes and dressing. i like the way clothes let me manipulated what is 'me' to the word, and also to myself.

fashion interests me less, but i welcome it to an extent as new seasons bring new colours into the shops, or certain shapes which interest me, and then i can add them to my wardrobe and wear them when it suits me, rather than waiting for that colour or shape to return to vogue.
 
boohoo said:
Asides from function of providing warmt, they do also serve a purpose of broadcasting an image... and that image might be 'I don't want to be noticed' Then there are the details of what you wear... the smart/scruffy/ conventional..eg... what do you wear at work? Is it standard blouse and skirt from BHS, or trendy blouse and skirt from topshop or trousers and jumper with trainers... etc... all can be quite un-noticable but giving out different messages.
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yep, you're right, i'm sure some people do choose things that say something about them, a slogan here, a brand there and as yousay somepeople choose clothes that don't attract any attention at all. I'm sure there are people who look at people and read things into what they are wearing. Its an interesting discussion, I dont often look at people and think 'you are such a person because you wear that' but then there are subliminal assumptions that maybe we all make

For me, i choose things that i like, colours, patterns, styles of trouser. My preferences are based on things that fit me, colours that i like and i match things that i think look nice together, colours that go well together and accessories that i like the sound, sight or feel of.
 
I like fashion, as in looking at them, getting inspiration from it.
From colours, materials, cuttings, combinations etc.


It's dreadful to see fashion followers slapping clothes onto themselves which don't fit though.
It may look good on models, or on some celebrities, but it certainly won't have the same effect on others.
Fashion is for a different body frame.
 
felixthecat said:
Are people really that influenced by label? :confused:

I don't think I know anyone who is.
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well, some people who shop in top shop might not visit BHS or marks but if they actually saw what was on offer might change their opinion and actually check out those shops for certain items.
 
felixthecat said:
Are people really that influenced by label? :confused:

I don't think I know anyone who is.
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but how old are you?

I know you're not 18.. :)


When I see Marks and Spencer trying to woo under 25s, or even under 30s, 35s, 40s I despair. Surely they should be trying to lure Jaeger customers or whatever? Most 25 year olds don't want something from Marks and Spencers, even if the article of clothing is exactly the same as one somewhere else.


Except their pants. :)
 
ShiftyBagLady said:
I'm sure there are people who look at people and read things into what they are wearing. Its an interesting discussion, I dont often look at people and think 'you are such a person because you wear that' but then there are subliminal assumptions that maybe we all make
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We all make assumptions about people because of what they wear/ how they look. It's the first thing we notice (along with their body language) when we see people.
 
boohoo said:
well, some people who shop in top shop might not visit BHS or marks but if they actually saw what was on offer might change their opinion and actually check out those shops for certain items.
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But thats not really label dependant is it? If they saw the labels of say Top Shop and M&S on the clothes I don't think it would make a huge amount of difference. Maybe people who shop in Top Shop wouldn't think to visit M&S (for example) because they have a notion that they won't be catered for.

It would be different if they were faced with a nice Primark dress and a fugly D&G one, and choose the D&G for the label, simple because its more 'prestigious'.
 
boohoo said:
We all make assumptions about people because of what they wear/ how they look. It's the first thing we notice (along with their body language) when we see people.
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And when I don't want to be bothered, I tend to dress unattractively.
It's a great trick :)
 
quimcunx said:
but how old are you?

I know you're not 18.. :)


When I see Marks and Spencer trying to woo under 25s, or even under 30s, 35s, 40s I despair. Surely they should be trying to lure Jaeger customers or whatever? Most 25 year olds don't want something from Marks and Spencers, even if the article of clothing is exactly the same as one somewhere else.


Except their pants. :)
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Ok, so I'm ancient:mad:

But I shop with a teenager :p (or two) .

My daughter doesn't care where its from as long as its what she wants and is cheap (I've trained her well)

The boy is more label concious but thats mainly where football boots and trainers are concerned.
 
Combination of tribal markings and comfort/warmth/protection from the elements. Distorted by marketing and the drive for profit.
 
imo as has already been said difference between fashion and style and you cant beat function

imo fashion is all about shallow smackheads with a taste for androdgony making clothes to be disposable and increasingly unwearable stupid looking clothes like those ultradrainpipes wtf?

And when you find what you want when you go back for more of the same you can bets its gone and replced by all that neo-80s crap thansk god for th humble tracksuit is all i can say
 
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