What do you think of Bob Dylan

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by BigMoaner, Dec 24, 2015.


Dylan - how do you rate him

  1. Excellent

    47 vote(s)
  2. Good

    26 vote(s)
  3. Average

    9 vote(s)
  4. Poor

    8 vote(s)
  5. Shite

    18 vote(s)
  1. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    My reading of the "judas" comment was that it wasn't that he was "going electric" - but that it signified he was leaving behind the whole folk/protest scene that made him a star becasue being a rock star looked a lot more fun. So bye bye Joan Baez, civil rights and all the anti-war stuff - hello getting stoned with the beatles.
    Now whilst the initial electric period was (IMHO) his very best stuff - it is very noticeable that he was now nowhere near any of the politics of the time. The fact that he essentially sat out the vietnam war is pretty glaring. He never even made a single public statement about his views on it - never mind writing a song. This from the man that wrote "masters of war". The political convulsions of that engulfed america from the mid sixties feature barely seem to feature in his work.
    As far as i know he didn't have anything to do with the civil rights movement after going electric either - which is actually quite shocking because probably his biggest break was performing to the crowds at the "i have a dream" march on washington in 1963.
    Yet when Martin Luther King was assassinated in 1968, ( please correct me if wrong here) Dylan doesn't seem to have made any response. Why the fuck not? Did he now despise the folk scene so much that any association with it was totally beneath him? Did he just us the whole movement to piggy back his way to fame?
    "judas" isn't the half of it really. How comes he gets a free pass on this?
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  2. And the Zim was just one of many, many examples of what in Soviet times was called bardy. Here's Daniel Kahn doing the songs of one Soviet bard, Bulat Okudzhava, in English translation:

  3. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Ive always been put off but I just got a copy of the first album and to my surprise i love it! His voice is completely different to later stuff is it? Its kind of punky and playful, and a lot more bluegrassy than i thought he did.
    I guess the voice in the first album is more affected and as time went on he became more himself? But i really like the affected version (if thats whats going on).
    Im expecting that to my tastes its going to go downhill fast from here on in though.

    this one - at 20 years old
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2018
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  4. Sweet FA

    Sweet FA ✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪

    By which time he'd written Don't Think Twice; one of my favourites. You've got Freewheelin' next which has got some of the best songs ever on it.

    (↑ Random yet great video of London in the early 60s (62?) - cab/train drivers etc)
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  5. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    This is cool... Brings some Delta and gravity to it
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  6. I think there might be the guts of one really great album in the Christian stuff.
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  7. Hollis

    Hollis Bloody furious

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  8. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    Brilliant songwriter, cunt of a person.
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  9. Rosemary Jest

    Rosemary Jest Wrong and Unstable

    My favourite record is Desire. Also got a soft spot for New Morning.

    Not so keen on his folky stuff.
  10. HoratioCuthbert

    HoratioCuthbert I have no choice, so I'll rejoice

    She high fived me when I saw her back when she was part of Sound Of Rum. I fucking loved Sound Of Rum.

    Not sure how I ended up here, I’m bored! :)
  11. HoratioCuthbert

    HoratioCuthbert I have no choice, so I'll rejoice

    Oh Bob Dylan, couple of good tracks. My mum and my auntie made me go and see him live and it’s one of the least enjoyable gigs I’ve ever been to but they rate it as being amongst the stars or something, I don’t get it. I always preferred Melanie Safka’s covers of his hits when I was a bairn and also Joan Baez’s later on.
    This sticks in my mind from my childhood though:

    “I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
    And just for that one moment I could be you
    Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
    You'd know what a drag it is to see you”

  12. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    the Grabbies made those lyrics so much more succinct tho
  13. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

  14. marshall

    marshall Well-Known Member

    Read that Barney Hoskyns book about his time in Woodstock in the early 60s, the Band, and all that, interesting read, cool time and place, but he doesn't come across great. Gotta love Blood on the Tracks though.
  15. I've been listening to this one a lot, the past few days. If you don't know it, you should.

  16. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

    Eh? 'Every grain of sand' was one of his best ever.

    Last edited: Dec 20, 2018
  17. And Caribbean Wind is from his Xtian period.
  18. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

    I started listening to Dylan in 1962, which to my surprise is 56 years ago now.

    At one point I owned every single official album release, and about twenty bootlegs.

    Dylan has always been one of my favourite musicians, but I do have a bit of a masochistic streak, I've supported Heart of Midlothian for nearly as long.

    He has written some of the most powerful music written by anyone, at any time. He has also written some utter dross. The 'Dylan' album released in 1973 is without doubt the nadir of his work. (I suppose, in the interests of completeness, it should be mentioned that it was released by Columbia, with no input from Dylan. It was possibly Columbia's revenge for Dylan leaving for a short lived association with Asylum Records.

    The list of his 'treasures' is almost endless, but here are a few.

    Last edited: Dec 20, 2018
  19. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

    Written by Buffy St Marie, biggest hit by Donovan.
  20. hash tag

    hash tag never too old

    I think I was here. Don't think I paid and don't remember seeing very much! Was thinking of tickets to see him with Neil Young in Hyde Park but can't really be bothered.

  21. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

    Cat Stevens wrote some stunners. Father and son. Where do the children play. Matthew and Son. My lady D'arbanville. Wild world. Oh Caritas. Und viel anderen.

    Speak for yourself re 'some tunes you recognise'. This was the music of my youth. (Dismounts high horse. :))
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  22. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    It was a joke pal. An old joke but nevertheless a joke.
  23. There's a young lad here in the puzzle palace who's the spit of the young Cat Stevens. And he has a girlfriend who looks like a young Joni Mitchell.
  24. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

  25. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

    Probably because it takes decades to produce a substantial body of work.
  26. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

    Yep, genius is often viewed in that manner.
  27. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Grateful for what I have.

  28. Hey Sasaferrato, I've just found this, one of the best versions of Tangled Up in Blue that I've heard him do:

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  29. blossie33

    blossie33 trailer trash

    First Cut is the Deepest :)
    That's a classic he also wrote.

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