Idris2002
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Irish people don't have David Cameron pissing in their collective face - unlike certain other people I could name.
What do you know about Irelands 1916 Rising?
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I am and it is.
Especially since if Ireland had somehow remained in the UK it would surely have been on a devo max max *MAX* basis.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I don't remember learning about it at school, which is pretty shocking since I did British History 1870 to 1939 for O Level.
Maybe because I did my O Levels at the height of the "troubles" in Northern Ireland.
Everything I know about the 1916 Easter Rising has been learnt since then.
I visited the prison when I was in Dublin a few years ago. Until then I only had a vague understanding.
Maybe because I did my O Levels at the height of the "troubles" in Northern Ireland.
Everything I know about the 1916 Easter Rising has been learnt since then.
I visited the prison when I was in Dublin a few years ago. Until then I only had a vague understanding.
No, they have FF, FG and the EU pissing in their faces instead. Which is better how?
Idris2002
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And that would not have been stable. It would largely have been a means of outdoor relief for the south Dublin middle classes, and most of the remainder of the population would not have been able to get their snouts in the trough.
Another point is that the Stormont regime was heavily subsidized by Westminster - according to a formula which was not fully transparent. I could see any similar arrangement of subsidy for a Dublin Home Rule regime becoming a major source of political anger and controversy, as British taxpayers (especially the Daily Mail reading ones) fume at having to pay for the shenanigans of obstreperous (as they see it) bog dwellers.
Idris2002
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The particular kind of political bullshit the Piglover is trying wouldn't be politically feasible in Ireland.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
The Irish get to run the place
Yeah sure but I don't get what practical difference that actually makes. If you are getting fucked over you are getting fucked over. Similarly if you're doing alright you are doing alright.
I don't get the difference between red white and blue and orange white and green in this respect.
But then I'm British (and specifically English) so I don't "bellyfeel" these things the same way as someone who is Irish.
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
they do not have the shame of you as a compatriot
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
no, your nationality is immaterial, you just haven't a clue
SikhWarrioR
And the Worms ate into his brain
1916 Dublin easter uprising possibly let down by the Germans who had initially promised a lot more to the rebels than they finally got so never really having a chance
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
yeh cos eoin macneill's countermanding of the mobilisation had nothing to do with it
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
well we were not part of Britannia for quite a while before Cromwell turned up...
and look what the Unionist did up north leading up the 70's parliament and Work place lockouts depending upon religion
the same would of occurred down south if we not gotten back our independence
And the sinking of the ship which was to supply the Irish volunteers with 20,000 rifles and 1,000,000 bullets.....it could have been much worse...
SS Libau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
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8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
yeh cos eoin macneill's countermanding of the mobilisation had nothing to do with it
Even if o Neil hadn't counter manned he order Casement returned only w 20,000 rifles and 4 machine guns without crew. Far less than hoped for and scuppered off the coast.
Plumdaff
increasingly dispiriting
I studied British History from 1815 to the present for A Level in the early 90s. Ireland was something Gladstone was fairly keen on, never mentioned beyond that. Disgraceful if not shocking omission. My Dad told me bits about Casement and Connolly but I realise I have some reading to do.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Those are only two. I only was involved in a half dozen.
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
*macneill* not o neill. casement returned on a submarine, the weapons were on the libau/aud.
Idris2002
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Did they not even tell you about the famine?
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
We were taught nothing about the uprising/ civil war or even the "troubles " that were at their height when i was at school. Until that is 1974 and the day after the Birmingham Bombs which went off not far from my school when our Science lesson was altered so that we could all discuss how horrible the Irish were despite two or three of us in there obviously having Irish backgrounds.
Our History lessons were pathetic. English Kings and Queens and that was it. Our Metalwork lessons were quite challenging though, as we were all (the boys anyway) expected to go off to the local factories and foundries and produce stuff until Thatcher came along and decided that no one in the world needed Coal or Steel anymore.
Our History lessons were pathetic. English Kings and Queens and that was it. Our Metalwork lessons were quite challenging though, as we were all (the boys anyway) expected to go off to the local factories and foundries and produce stuff until Thatcher came along and decided that no one in the world needed Coal or Steel anymore.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Tu Stultus Es.
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
tbh i was never taught irish history at school
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
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