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pogofish
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The chemical thing is a bit of a non-issue TBH.
Broadly, studies have found a long list of combustion byproducts from both commercial fags & rollies. With rollies having the least & interpreting that as meaning the tobacco companies must add anything up to thousands of terrible substances.
However, the reality is a bit more prosaic - when you burn anything innefficently, you do tend to get a rich mix of potentially toxic byproducts. Surprised by that?
As for American Spirit - Rough stuff that. My ex & I were quite unable to smoke a pouch of the stuff between us. Ended-up giving it to her chain smoking mother, who would smoke anything - even she had a good pech!
Broadly, studies have found a long list of combustion byproducts from both commercial fags & rollies. With rollies having the least & interpreting that as meaning the tobacco companies must add anything up to thousands of terrible substances.
However, the reality is a bit more prosaic - when you burn anything innefficently, you do tend to get a rich mix of potentially toxic byproducts. Surprised by that?
As for American Spirit - Rough stuff that. My ex & I were quite unable to smoke a pouch of the stuff between us. Ended-up giving it to her chain smoking mother, who would smoke anything - even she had a good pech!
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Another GV smoker here, but tbh the papers and filters are more important to me, blue or failing that silver rizla with extra thing filter tips, don't like the taste of to much paper or how fat normal filters feel. I also really like the way that they go out when I'm not smoking them, I can put them down, potter round for a min, then relight. I feel really cheated when using green papers or even worse smoking normal fags and come back to find that its all burnt away.
Not sure how anyone can complain about GV being to moist, dry baccy is mank.
Not sure how anyone can complain about GV being to moist, dry baccy is mank.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Not really, inhaling any burning plant products can't be good for you. However if I smoke regular fags for a night, my throat feels a lot worse the next day.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Yes - there is then the issue of particle size & a few other things. Commercial fags not only contain more tobacco, they filter it more efficently IIRC - which means a larger dose of smaller particles & byproducts hitting your throat/lungs.
Others take a quality vs quantity approach & argue that whilst rollies produce less nasties overall, the ones they do produce are heavier on the worse things.
So, take your pick & don't moan about it IMO.
Others take a quality vs quantity approach & argue that whilst rollies produce less nasties overall, the ones they do produce are heavier on the worse things.
So, take your pick & don't moan about it IMO.
Too dry is crap but the problem I have with GV is that it's too moist, so you have to keep lighting it again. I wonder how much they make out of the water content of each pouch?
Interesting about the filter tips. I'm using them for the first time, rizla slims at the moment.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
To me they were a god send, could never really get into rollies before I discovered them and now I hate normal fags. You never used to be able to get them, I discovered them when travelling Aus about 7 years ago, when I came back, you could get them everywhere.
Try Rizzla ultra slim or Swan extra slim and you won't want to go back. I don't understand why they call the fat ones "slim". Maybe because they are still thinner then normal fags?
Try Rizzla ultra slim or Swan extra slim and you won't want to go back. I don't understand why they call the fat ones "slim". Maybe because they are still thinner then normal fags?
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
So, take your pick & don't moan about it IMO.
Indeed, to kid yourself that any kind of smoking is "healthy" is daft. I've weaned myself of many drugs I used to take, but of all them I find baccy the hardest.
Well that American Spirit seemed too good to resist. So I bought a 25g pouch today. The first one left my mouth feeling numb but the second and subsequent rollies have been fine.
It's got a nice earthy taste which I like. It is dry compared to other baccy (14% moisture content compared to the 16-18% industry standard) but according to the blurb if you leave the pouch open near an open window or door for a few minutes every day it should take in enough moisture from the ambient air.
It burns quicker than other baccy but that seems to be because it doesn't contain the moisturising agents that are added to the others.
I'm liking it.
It's got a nice earthy taste which I like. It is dry compared to other baccy (14% moisture content compared to the 16-18% industry standard) but according to the blurb if you leave the pouch open near an open window or door for a few minutes every day it should take in enough moisture from the ambient air.
It burns quicker than other baccy but that seems to be because it doesn't contain the moisturising agents that are added to the others.
I'm liking it.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Golden Vadge, with blue papers and ultra slim filters.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you can grow tobacco. From what I have been told it's the curing process that takes forever. You can't get owt but lung-slaughtering shit without the homegrown being hung for ages
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Yes, tobacco is dead easy to grow. My grandfather used to have a crop every year & most garden centres will stock seeds for certain nicotania (sp?) strains & I've linked a site here before that will do seeds for most common rolling/fag tobaccos online.
The trick is not in the growing tho - its the hanging/curing that you need to get right & that can take a long time. My grandad used to have the bunches of leaves hanging from the beams in his garage - think he gave it at least a year to cure before smoking but it could have probably used longer (read that some need up to 3 yrs) as it smelt like old boots. He usually mixed it 50/50 with bought tobacco.
The trick is not in the growing tho - its the hanging/curing that you need to get right & that can take a long time. My grandad used to have the bunches of leaves hanging from the beams in his garage - think he gave it at least a year to cure before smoking but it could have probably used longer (read that some need up to 3 yrs) as it smelt like old boots. He usually mixed it 50/50 with bought tobacco.
