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What a massive idiot!!!!!! (Gavin Henson)

tis bad isn't it. Just makes people who are so vehement in the defence of it cause he happens to play for thier team, look bad. Another example of nationalistic shit that I keep seeing in evidence on any rugby related board.
Funny then that your opening post seemed far more concerned with trivial matters like his hairstyle, his tan, waxed legs, injury record and his wife than any intelligent comment on the supposed perils of nationalism.
We all get pissed up in pub's... not all of us become rowdy twats... and where I'm from messing around with pool balls in the midddle of a game (presuming it was) is grounds for recieving a proper beating.
Really? Gosh! Where is that, then?
 
TBF, in some of the pubs I played in oop North as a pool shark... this was the case...
It used to be like that in Cardiff, but pubs have changed a lot. Scraps tend to take place outside boozers now because of all the CCTV/quick response cops etc.
 
It's really hard to engage with any argument that boils down to 'but others are worse'. An Irish rugby player waded into the stands and lamped a fan, doesn't mean an Irishman couldn't comment on similar matters without having to list, apologise and give three hail marys for all their compatriot's misdemeanours.

But that's not the argument that's being made, is it? My point is simple: why single out Henson for a relatively minor misdemeanour when there are plenty of examples of far worse behaviour far closer to home, which are conveniently ignored. The fact that this non-news story has been turned into a thread by that staunch internationalist, DaRealSpoon, says far more about attitudes towards Henson than it does about the importance of the incident. My point is that you're blindly aping tabloid froth, which is lazy and pointless.

Nevertheless, I'll try. The lads accused of rape were, in my humble opinion, shown to be guilty of nothing of the sort

Wrong. The girl refused to press charges because she didn't want her name dragged through the mud. She made her position clear in her press statement, and as far as I know, did not attempt to make capital from the incident. As far as I'm concerned they may have done it as equally as they may not have.
Tindall was stupid and has been condemned by a court and banned from driving.

And roundly condemned on these boards of course, oh yes!

He missed how many matches for being a twat, so what if he was unhappy with a regime. It happens. He's supposed to be a professional, in that respect he failed.

No, Mattie. Jenkins failed. His hatred for Henson was plain for all to see, and his failure as a coach was even clearer. Henson questioned Jenkins' training regime, which in retrospect was fair enough, because Jenkins' training regime was a joke and a farce that ushered in one of the most embarrassing periods of rugby that Wales has ever had. It is precisely because of his professionalism that he challenged the coach, because he felt that Jenkins did not match that professionalism. History, you would say, has exonerated him.

You'd think he'd try to be squeaky clean, what the hell is he doing kicking off in a pub? You think Doug Howlett would be doing that after he got a rollicking for trashing cars? His whole demeanour is troubling, he fucks off rugby correspondents because he's worried it'll screw his exclusivity contract with hello. I despair.

So let me get this right. You reckon that Henson is the epitome of all that's wrong with rugby because he got rowdy in a pub, had some friends who got rowdy on a train, and because he doesn't dance to the tune of the sports media? Jesus Christ, I would have hoped that you'd apply the same rigourous standards to all players, but it's evident that you don't.
The comparison to JW is facile. He's never missed a game for anything other than injury, of which he's had far, far too many.

Sorry mate, but it's a fair point. Nobody questions JW when he's injured, and that's fair enough. Those who question Henson when he is are simply aping tabloid generated bullshit with no foundation in fact. Do you really think that two hard, success orientated bastards like Gatland and Edwards would really give leeway to a player because he 'didn't feel like playing' or because he was psychologically flakey? No, I didn't think so. Henson doesn't play when injured because he's, errrr, injured.
 
tis bad isn't it. Just makes people who are so vehement in the defence of it cause he happens to play for thier team, look bad. Another example of nationalistic shit that I keep seeing in evidence on any rugby related board.

I'm 'defending' Chavin because of the tiresome, oft-repeated, fact-free bullshit masquerading as 'da troot' that gets bandied around about him. FWIW, the Welsh press are as bad if not worse at pillorying their favourite whipping boy. I just happen to think that he's potentially one of the most talented players of his generation, and that the opprobrium he receives is mainly media generated, and followed slavishly by people who can't be bothered to arm themselves with the facts and actually think for themselves. If that's a 'nationalist' stance, then so be it.

Makes no difference what country he is from to me, the guys a cock. Whether he can play rugby or not is irrelevant. He's a cock.

So tell me why he's a cock apart from his fake tan, shaven legs, spiked up hair and the fact that he's publicly got rowdy in a pub on one occasion?

Then please condemn all the cocks in your own team, just for balance, like.
 
So tell me why he's a cock apart from his fake tan, shaven legs, spiked up hair and the fact that he's publicly got rowdy in a pub on one occasion?

Then please condemn all the cocks in your own team, just for balance, like.

Yep, but there's rowdy, and then theres being an obvious arsehole, there is a difference.

I must say i hadn't even heard of him before this, so he probably hasn't done his team mates proud here.

I think most sports people are cocks, because they live in a bubble of unreality, nationality doesnt matter, a cock is a cock is a cock.
 
Yep, but there's rowdy, and then theres being an obvious arsehole, there is a difference.

I must say i hadn't even heard of him before this, so he probably hasn't done his team mates proud here.

I think most sports people are cocks, because they live in a bubble of unreality, nationality doesnt matter, a cock is a cock is a cock.

Agreed. But do you think it's possible that certain people's cocklike behaviour is seized upon and used as grist to the tabloid mill in order to sell papers? Does it then follow that joe public will start to form opinions of said cock which are disproportionate to his cockishness, and will blindly follow the line that he's a cock while conveniently ignoring people who behave in a worse fashion who are in the same position sportswise as the cock, but possibly less high profile mediawise?

Behaving like a cock in pub versus drink driving
Behaving like a cock on a train versus grievous bodily harm.

You decide.
 
Anyways, the 6 Nations thread is thataway =================>

Move along, nothing to see here..........
 
Agreed. But do you think it's possible that certain people's cocklike behaviour is seized upon and used as grist to the tabloid mill in order to sell papers? Does it then follow that joe public will start to form opinions of said cock which are disproportionate to his cockishness, and will blindly follow the line that he's a cock while conveniently ignoring people who behave in a worse fashion who are in the same position sportswise as the cock, but possibly less high profile mediawise?

Behaving like a cock in pub versus drink driving
Behaving like a cock on a train versus grievous bodily harm.

You decide.

Absolutely, yet his position means that he would have to try to suppress his inner cockness, for this very reason.

Until it all breaks loose like an angry wasp freed from the chains of oppressive media coverage.

Sorry, im in a very silly mood today :)
 
So every sports celebrity is expected to be a super confident, testosteroned fueled, 110% giving, finly tuned athelete whilst competing. Then saintly off the pitch / field. Always doing the right thing, time for everyone, modest, perfect gent or lady etc. etc.

Its not impossible but such things are rare. Nice guys finish last don't they.

The few names i can think of who are regarded as top guys both on and off the field are:

Gary Lineker
John Charles
Big Daddy

Can't think of any more right now. But they are the exceptions rather than the rule and people are barmy if they expect all sporting celebs to fit these molds.
 
jason Leonard to that list.

He's an ace bloke, beer monster off the field and he never got into trouble really.

Aaand I met him an he bought me a pint, even tho I was only seventeen at the time (shhh :hmm:)
 
His only mistake is he wasn't careful where he got pissed up. Because of his profile and ego people are dying for something like this to happen so they can jump on him.

I admit I had a little smile to myself and thought "What a cock"
 
rugby players are generally cock heads tho aren't they. i mean, they are just a bunch of fat twats who can't play football
 
rugby players are generally cock heads tho aren't they. i mean, they are just a bunch of fat twats who can't play football

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At least his missus can hold her drink. She must be well embarrassed of him, the big girl's blouse.
 
At least his missus can hold her drink. She must be well embarrassed of him, the big girl's blouse.

Aye. I imagine Chavin has taken a right battering from the voice of a fishwife for this latest indiscretion.
 
if charlotte church is reading this can i just say i'd go out with you like a shot and would never do shit like this :cool:
 
I am disgusted and incredibly dissapointed by this affair. Who excatly do these guys think they are, international professional sportsmen my arse.

In this day and age for a group of 20 something sportsmen, at the top of their game, revered by thousands to go out on the piss togther there are certain standards that are expected.

In all the accounts I have read of their night out I cannot find a single allegation of spit roasting, rape or even a simple molestation. To add to that they even apologised for their behaviour.

Absolutely disgusting, how they can ever hold their heads high at SPOTY again I don't know!
 
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