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Westboro Baptist Church to protest in Britain

I think they did yes.

I'd be very surprised if they even attempted to come and even more surprised if they were allowed in.

If they do get in I wouldn't give a shiny shilling for their chances of getting out again unscathed.

Ive never understood why they dont have ten showers of shit battered out of them by military personell/families in the USA?:confused:

I can just imagine if the guys I know who serve in the forces here encountered them, I think theyd be quite happy to deal with them and the consequences
 
Loads of protesters dressed like this should baffle them.

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Someone should bring a packet of these, just to really fuck with their heads...

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Quite a hate-monger yourself when you have a bee in your bonnet aren't you!
May be you and Fred have more in common than you realise.

as oppsed to perniciuos selective misqoting to pursue your own agenda that is eh??

quote it all or not at all.

and frankly who gives a fuck.

by phelphs own standards and biblically sound judge not least you be judged which any and all theological collages will tell you is actually saying the standards you judge others are those which you will be judged on... in this case the message being put out is one of pure hate ergo it's entirely natural to judge it on equal terms...

unless you're some kind of numpty....

now phelps senior has no chance of reform not one he revels in his hatred as does the remaining family members who are all venimous people. they children however with decent counselling and help couldbecome decent people away from the child abuse conditioning they have had inflicted on them from birth with the westboro indoctrination...

why shouldn't those who are entirely unreformable such as phelps not be locked up in a mental hospital which is clearly what he needs and have the children taken into protective care for their own good (and conincidentally the good of the rest of the world)

however if you can find evidence for your lack of scale comments which would support the fact i have caused disstress to grieving famlies of dead and dying aids patients, soliders, and the like on the scale comparible the phelps and co then please post it up otherwise you bitchy indicative is entirely unwarrented and you should fuck up...
 
I'm no fan of evangelists and certainly not bigots like this, but i can't see why there is a clamour to protest about this, yet nothing about the continual hatefest that Islamic Fundamentalists seem to preach everyday around the country, (see Mondays Panorama) It seems to me that Xtians fundies are a liberal target but not Islamic ones,
 
I'm no fan of evangelists and certainly not bigots like this, but i can't see why there is a clamour to protest about this, yet nothing about the continual hatefest that Islamic Fundamentalists seem to preach everyday around the country, (see Mondays Panorama) It seems to me that Xtians fundies are a liberal target but not Islamic ones,

it isn't often that i say this, but i agree with you - although not about the islamist thing, because i think that's blown out of proportion too. i felt the same with the scientology protests as well.

they are fools and i don't think that we should be giving the oxygen of publicity to them. its what they thrive on. obviously they're awful and scum and everything but they thrive on this, they are basically pointless, and to be honest i can't, as a gay person, bring myself to get worked up about stuff like a few idiots who nobody listens to, who are even in the USA regarded as extreme, coming to this country, when there is so much other stuff happening to gay people around the world perpetrated by people with a lot more power and influence than this.

although fair play to anyone going to go and protest - a sixth form college ffs.
 
it isn't often that i say this, but i agree with you - although not about the islamist thing, because i think that's blown out of proportion too. i felt the same with the scientology protests as well.

they are fools and i don't think that we should be giving the oxygen of publicity to them. its what they thrive on. obviously they're awful and scum and everything but they thrive on this, they are basically pointless, and to be honest i can't, as a gay person, bring myself to get worked up about stuff like a few idiots who nobody listens to, who are even in the USA regarded as extreme, coming to this country, when there is so much other stuff happening to gay people around the world perpetrated by people with a lot more power and influence than this.

although fair play to anyone going to go and protest - a sixth form college ffs.
I'm inclined to agree. They thrive on attention, why give it to them? I wonder if anyone would care if Theroux hadn't made them famous.
 
'it isn't often that i say this, but i agree with you - although not about the islamist thing, because i think that's blown out of proportion too. i felt the same with the scientology protests as well.


'blown out of proportion', not imo, probably not the right term to use, btw, did you see Panorama or Ch 4 news on the new 'threat' from Uk Somali youth fighting in Somalia with some becoming suicide bombers , not so easy to dismiss in my view. Just how can these idiots be more of a concern to Urbanites than the above.
 
I'm no fan of evangelists and certainly not bigots like this, but i can't see why there is a clamour to protest about this, yet nothing about the continual hatefest that Islamic Fundamentalists seem to preach everyday around the country, (see Mondays Panorama) It seems to me that Xtians fundies are a liberal target but not Islamic ones,

Tell me when the next bunch of Islamic fundamentalists are picketing a play or demonstrating outside a gay club and I'll go along and shout at them just as I would the Westboro bunch.

As it is, Phelps is high profile and he gets off on making life unpleasant for people. He puts himself in the firing line, and if he can't go anywhere without walking into a hail of abuse and eggs that's his own fault.
 
I'm no fan of evangelists and certainly not bigots like this, but i can't see why there is a clamour to protest about this, yet nothing about the continual hatefest that Islamic Fundamentalists seem to preach everyday around the country, (see Mondays Panorama) It seems to me that Xtians fundies are a liberal target but not Islamic ones,

too fucking right - I'll protest openly against christian nutters, but I am genuinely afraid to speak out against the less pleasent aspects of islam - as in scared for my own safety, salman rushdie etc.

plus, and this may be for right or wrong, but I feel that speaking out against any aspect of islam (a subject I know next to nothing about) is not going to do anything to help foster good relations between moderate but disaffected and socially-marginalised british muslims. in short, it seems like racism.
 
...in short, it seems like racism.

Which it isn't.

I suspect a part of difference in protesting against xtian fundies and mohammudan fundies is that most people in this country are more familiar with xtianity and feel they are on less 'theologically' dodgy ground.
 
I suspect a part of difference in protesting against xtian fundies and mohammudan fundies is that most people in this country are more familiar with xtianity and feel they are on less 'theologically' dodgy ground.

Which is bullshit.
 
Which is bullshit.

I don't think it is.

People sometimes are more cautious about criticising militant Islam, partly for fear of being thought insensitive (or worse), but also because they don't know as much about it and aren't as familiar with different strands of opinion within Islam as they are Christianity, and therefore aren't as confident in making a judgement on it. IMHO, anyway.
 
I don't think it is.

People sometimes are more cautious about criticising militant Islam, partly for fear of being thought insensitive (or worse), but also because they don't know as much about it and aren't as familiar with different strands of opinion within Islam as they are Christianity, and therefore aren't as confident in making a judgement on it. IMHO, anyway.

How much do we know about Christianity though? Aren't there a group of people arguing on another thread that you don't have to know much about Christianity or the Bible to criticise it? There's no two ways about it, religion is a choice, you can either criticise all aspects of religion fundamentalism or you don't.
 
I'm no fan of evangelists and certainly not bigots like this, but i can't see why there is a clamour to protest about this, yet nothing about the continual hatefest that Islamic Fundamentalists seem to preach everyday around the country, (see Mondays Panorama) It seems to me that Xtians fundies are a liberal target but not Islamic ones,

Yawnety yawn, yawn yawn.

Did I mention anything about yawns, yet?

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Yawnyawnyawn. Yawn.

Oh, is that the time?
 
How much do we know about Christianity though? Aren't there a group of people arguing on another thread that you don't have to know much about Christianity or the Bible to criticise it?

Are there? I haven't read that thread.

You don't need to have a degree in theology to have problems with Christianity or any other religion, but on the other hand, arguing from a position of complete ignorance is rarely a good idea on any subject IMO.
 
Right, I've just set up a petition on the No. 10 website; it isn't officially up yet but I'll post the address when it is.
 
Are there? I haven't read that thread.

You don't need to have a degree in theology to have problems with Christianity or any other religion, but on the other hand, arguing from a position of complete ignorance is rarely a good idea on any subject IMO.

Exactly. the other day someone said of islam and apostasty "its a stone age religion and they kill all apostates" or someting to that effect, yet a quick search on google revealed quite a major shia sect who dont believe in killing apostates because they see nothing in the koran to justify it. i was willing as anyone to get angry about how apostates are treated in islam but when even the smallest amount of research reveals that islam is far from monolithic on this issue then it quickly becomes apparent how ignorant we all are on the history and theology of the religion. yet even as a long term athiest ive got a pretty good handle on the major issues in xianity and its theology. yet even educated people can come across as a bit simplistic on the sheer diversity and complexity of islamic beliefs of a billion people across a vast area and across vastly different cultures.
dont get me wrong im a follower of a christopher hitchens style attitude towards religion overall and islam in particular but as the man himself says we are partly caught up in an islamic civil war which we barely understand in all its details, jumping into that with both feet is stupid.
 
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