mattie
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There's certainly no risk of such a club being bought by foreign investors. You can sleep easy, rosie
West Ham To 66/1 to Finish Bottom at Corals
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There's certainly no risk of such a club being bought by foreign investors. You can sleep easy, rosie
kained&able
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If we have to give them a couple of millio though i reckon that counts as a forign investor.
dave
dave
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
Ah, I see, my cityboy gambling friend may have wasted my cash then
Well... this IS west ham, so the way things are going you may well be quids in at the end of the year....
I reckon we're goig to get bought by someone with big bucks personally. As people on KUMB have pointed out, BG's possible selling price of 150m is a bargain when you think of the untapped potential of our club, huge catchment area (Essex), years of unfulfilled potential etc.
tommers
Currently in investor / advisor mode.
kained&able
Here for the football.
We are like newcastle but y'know have won something in living memory.
dave
dave
For a club with such a history of screwups, we have a pretty decent fanbase. I mean Hackney isn't really core Hammers territory but there are still a lot of us about there..
This IS west ham.
Even if we factor in the 100m which will end up having to be paid to mcprat, we will still 'only' cost about 250m, which is much less than newcastle or spuds...
CyberRose
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You mean Neil Warnock who took us to the PL and would have kept us there had it not been for West Ham cheating?
CyberRose
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Meh
bluestreak
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And let's face it, West Ham fans are far more pleasant than Newcastle of Spuds fans. Yeah, some of our boys are knuckle-dragging nazi fucks, but at least they're cheerful. All the fucking moaning must make any investor think twice when looking at Newcastle or Spuds.
mattie
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Not quite how how Sean Bean viewed it. Not that he'd know anything. Just saying like.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Neil Warnock who threw away a ten point safety zone and presided over a team that scored 8 away goals in an entire season and is currently taking Crystal Palace to the heady heights of a Championship rlegation battle?
Legendary. Man, you should be thanking us.
Legendary. Man, you should be thanking us.
CyberRose
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May I refer the right notveryhonourable man to this previous post:
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=8145406&postcount=30
Yep, and who blamed the fact that his team were shite, played shite football and deserved to go down, on the fact that another team got a player who had a more negative than positive effect on the majority of that team's season, and who scored a couple of goals a. against a team who were complete cack and then b. in a game they only needed to draw anyway.
kained&able
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CyberRose
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Unfortunately guys, your bullshit and misinterpretations of the truth have been proved incorrect by the other week's tribunal ruling. West Ham did cheat. West Ham did lie. West Ham stayed up because of that. That has been proven as a legal fact. Sorry to keep going on about it but when one sees bullshit written, one feels compelled to make corrections where appropriate
kained&able
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If Milosovic can stand up and say that the hague is an illegal tribunal i see no reason why we can't.
and for about the 8 billioneth and last time kias lawyer says we lied. There isn't any actual evidence and therefore i yell shananigans!
dave
and for about the 8 billioneth and last time kias lawyer says we lied. There isn't any actual evidence and therefore i yell shananigans!
dave
CyberRose
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Quite an apt analogy I supposeIf Milosovic can stand up and say that the hague is an illegal tribunal i see no reason why we can't.
Ya see usually witness testimonies are considered as evidence to be considered by the judge making the final decision, not sure why you think this instance is different?
CyberRose
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Oh and btw, if what Kia's lawyer says is not true, don't you think West Ham would have straight away revealed the new contract between West Ham and Kia confirming the amendment of the offending contract (ie proof of termination). In fact, don't you think West Ham's lawyer would have presented that evidence to the tribunal? And don't you think the fact that West Ham failed to provide this evidence is proof that in fact, that contract was never terminated?
kained&able
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Beacuse there is no other evidence. Normally there is a requirment in legal porocedings for things to be beyond resonable doubt.
I say kias lawyer made it up, thus bringing forth a slight measure of doubt. So unless there is a taped phone conversation, a letter, email, minutes from a meeting or something else to suggest that this conversation actually did take place I don't see how this can be prooven legally.
But then i don't know what the burden of evidence is for a tribunal only a real court.
we recinded the contract there was no new one. It got ripped up and then kia tried to sue us for breaking the contract. We were then paid 2million to give up tevez's registartion suggesting that kia had waived the right to do whatever the hell he pleased with tevez cos he wasn't ours in the first place.
I'm done and can'tr be arsed anymore. Wait untill the penelty has been handed down and our appweeals have been done and im sure we can have exactly the same arguments for the next few weeks again.
dave
I say kias lawyer made it up, thus bringing forth a slight measure of doubt. So unless there is a taped phone conversation, a letter, email, minutes from a meeting or something else to suggest that this conversation actually did take place I don't see how this can be prooven legally.
But then i don't know what the burden of evidence is for a tribunal only a real court.
we recinded the contract there was no new one. It got ripped up and then kia tried to sue us for breaking the contract. We were then paid 2million to give up tevez's registartion suggesting that kia had waived the right to do whatever the hell he pleased with tevez cos he wasn't ours in the first place.
I'm done and can'tr be arsed anymore. Wait untill the penelty has been handed down and our appweeals have been done and im sure we can have exactly the same arguments for the next few weeks again.
dave
CyberRose
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Oh dear, not here again...
You can't "rip up" a contract. A contract is a legally binding agreement between two sets of people. To terminate a contract, a new contract (agreement) must be drawn up confirming the termination of the previous contract. No such contract exists (otherwise West Ham would surely have made the existence of such public). That also counts as evidence in a court of law. And no, when a judge has to make a decision between two parties (arbitration), nothing has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The judge must make a decision on the most compelling argument. In this case, Sheff Utd provided the most convincing arguments and provided the most convincing evidence. West Ham, despite having called up Sam Allardyce to give evidence supporting West Ham for some bizarre reason, failed to give convincing arguments and, unlike Sheff Utd, provided no evidence. The judge therefore found in favour of Sheff Utd
You can't "rip up" a contract. A contract is a legally binding agreement between two sets of people. To terminate a contract, a new contract (agreement) must be drawn up confirming the termination of the previous contract. No such contract exists (otherwise West Ham would surely have made the existence of such public). That also counts as evidence in a court of law. And no, when a judge has to make a decision between two parties (arbitration), nothing has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The judge must make a decision on the most compelling argument. In this case, Sheff Utd provided the most convincing arguments and provided the most convincing evidence. West Ham, despite having called up Sam Allardyce to give evidence supporting West Ham for some bizarre reason, failed to give convincing arguments and, unlike Sheff Utd, provided no evidence. The judge therefore found in favour of Sheff Utd
mattie
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Going from my basic engineer's understanding of contracts, you can essentially terminate a contract under a variety of conditions. I can't recall details, as it was ten years ago and I was perennially hung-over, but I think there are procedures in law for voiding contracts in cases where the contract becomes impossible to execute - if we sign a player from somebody to play for us and the contract (or clauses within the contract) effectively prevent us playing him - as the contracts/clauses with kinky kia would have done - then the clauses or contract may be voided. Without the other party necessarily agreeing.
I apologise to all lawyers for mangling legal concepts and terminology, and I may have that all backward, but that's my limited understanding of it all - please feel free to correct me, I'd actually be interested to hear.
But then, I'm sure you know best rosie. You've proven yourself an impartial judge of this whole affair.
eta: I'm starting to regret posting this, both as I've revealed my pig-ignorance of law and also because I really, really cannot be arsed with it all.
mattie
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This will never end. But a pint would be much appreciated, I think we all might need one.
kained&able
Here for the football.
Cyber rose is like a shark if he stop arguing he will realise how shit sheffiled united are and just die.
pint it is!
dave
CyberRose
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Of course, there are instances where a contract can be unilaterally terminated, but do you honestly think this counts in this case? The contract was agreed upon under British law, completely exclusive of any footballing issues. Can you see any way that this contact violates British law, rather than footballing law (which, of course, it did) that would lead to it being legally unilaterally terminated?
As sarcastic as that may have been intended, it has, unfortunately for you, turned out to be true
CyberRose
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Welcome back Mr "I can't be arsed any more"Cyber rose is like a shark if he stop arguing he will realise how shit sheffiled united are and just die.
pint it is!
dave
