West Ham fined 5.5 MILLION.

[tommers]

Of course had it been, say, Middlesbrough and not a fashionable London based club we can guarentee that they would have recieved the same punishment.

of course. what would make you think that wasn't true?

£5.5 million is four times the previous record fine. is that not enough?

 

[mattie]

of course. what would make you think that wasn't true?

£5.5 million is four times the previous record fine. is that not enough?

I can't believe people suggest we deserve more punishment after the season we've had. Talk about kicking a man when he's down (literally as well as figuratively).

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

It seems we aren't everyones' "second favourite team" any more

 

[tommers]

It seems we aren't everyones' "second favourite team" any more

good. fuck em.

 

[Flashman]

Seems a bit steep.

You'll be back. You always come back.

 

[CyberRose]

I knew West Ham would get off scott free. £5.5m is pocket money to Eggheadson. Absolute disgrace

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I knew West Ham would get off scott free. £5.5m is pocket money to Eggheadson. Absolute disgrace

to you too.

 

[tommers]

I knew West Ham would get off scott free. £5.5m is pocket money to Eggheadson. Absolute disgrace

scot free?

actually £5.5 million isn't pocket money to eggert.

but it is to Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson.

 

[kained&able]

Ummm seeing as we have been fined more the the entire of the italian clubs with the match fixing scandal. Saying as our chairman wasn't even at the club when this shit happened and cooperated fully once the takeover was done then fuck everyone who says that this isn't fair.

Tevez is allowed to play from what i can work out

t is understood that West Ham have been told to terminate the third-party agreement which exists within the contract before Tevez is free to play again.

Therefore, that action must take place immediately for Tevez to be available to face Wigan at the JJB Stadium.

so as long as msi or whoever the fuck ons the contract doesn't give him back to corinthians(who are in off season i belive) it can be sorted out. If the clubs are on the ball it can be sorted by tommrow but who the fuck knows.

We haven't been fielding elegible players just ones that broke premiership rules which apparently is different.

I reckon if we were mid table then we would have had 5 points deducted and a 500k fine. 1million a point is a bargin all things considered. Anmd to be fair is probbaley less money then chelsea spend to get a point.

we've been given a break now we need to make sure everything gets done on the pitch. Win at wigan and i'm very cofident of staying up. Lose or draw we are fucked and this doesn't make a difference other then eggy having to sue the old regieme.

edit: since when were west ham a fashionable london club???

dave

 

[tommers]

From another site...

Mascherano signed a 5 year contract and Tevez a 4 year contract, and an interesting fact over these contracts has emerged in the FAPL document.

Korabchian had the right to serve written notice on WHU during the January 2007 transfer window and on payment to WHU of £2m he could terminate Tevez's contract and he could have done the same thing during any further transfer window on payment to WHU of £100,000 thus rendering the contracts that were signed by the 2 players virtually valueless.

the one good thing about all this is that everything is finally coming out....

 

[kained&able]

does that mean we got 2million for machereno?


dave

 

[tommers]

does that mean we got 2million for machereno?


dave

no idea. I would doubt it. I think Liverpool paid MSI money for his contract.

But I also thought they said he was on loan.

I think it's OK cos they're liverpool and they'll all start holding minute silences if they don't get their own way.

Lachrymose buggers.

 

[tommers]

Tevez plays

 

[Biffo]

I think it's OK cos they're liverpool and they'll all start holding minute silences if they don't get their own way.

Lachrymose buggers.

Sure you don't support Everton? Bitter sod

 

[tommers]

Sure you don't support Everton? Bitter sod

you take that back! (the everton bit, not the bitter bit)

true tho, if you'd just been fined £5.5 million there'd be a book of condolence and a hundred fans outside anfield singing "you'll never walk alone."

what is the deal with mascherano by the way? is he your player, like say alonso is? or is he on loan? I don't really get it.

I also don't get that west ham have just released a statement to say that tevez's registration has never been in question and has always been approved the the Prem League. So what's all the fuss been about then?

I'm so confused.

 

[Biffo]

Not too sure on the exact facts but I beieve Mascherano is on loan until 2007/08 season. This loan cost £1.5m. Cost to buy him after the loan will be £10-15m apparently. Not sure who gets paid then either?

All the best for tomorrow.

 

[revol68]

Ummm seeing as we have been fined more the the entire of the italian clubs with the match fixing scandal. Saying as our chairman wasn't even at the club when this shit happened and cooperated fully once the takeover was done then fuck everyone who says that this isn't fair.

Tevez is allowed to play from what i can work out

so as long as msi or whoever the fuck ons the contract doesn't give him back to corinthians(who are in off season i belive) it can be sorted out. If the clubs are on the ball it can be sorted by tommrow but who the fuck knows.

We haven't been fielding elegible players just ones that broke premiership rules which apparently is different.

I reckon if we were mid table then we would have had 5 points deducted and a 500k fine. 1million a point is a bargin all things considered. Anmd to be fair is probbaley less money then chelsea spend to get a point.

we've been given a break now we need to make sure everything gets done on the pitch. Win at wigan and i'm very cofident of staying up. Lose or draw we are fucked and this doesn't make a difference other then eggy having to sue the old regieme.

edit: since when were west ham a fashionable london club???

dave

I like you, your posts are generally intelligent (well apart from your blinkered defence of that scrotum di Canio ) and more to the point you hate Chelsea and aren't part of the ABU crew.

 

[Sunray]

Not too sure on the exact facts but I beieve Mascherano is on loan until 2007/08 season. This loan cost £1.5m. Cost to buy him after the loan will be £10-15m apparently. Not sure who gets paid then either?

All the best for tomorrow.

To be honest, 10mil would be a good buy for Liverpool. He is top class.

 

[London_Calling]

see? that's not true. it wasn't the same as afc. at all.

muppet.

In the most important sense of all, it was the same, imo.

Both clubs gained advantage as against every other club in their league by fielding a player/players the league rules state they weren’t entitled to play. The rule infringement by AFCW and WHU cost other clubs points and league positions. They have that in common.

 

[kained&able]

Bet tevez breaks his leg today just to really piss off every claret and blue heart(other then the shoddy villa hearts).

I'm more nervous about this game then any i have been this season. This is actully it as far as i'm concerned. Do we get heads high puffed chests and give ourselves an outstanding chance or do we lose 4/5 nil like we keep doing to the teams round us and get relegated with a wimper while everyone says we desreve it cos of argiegate?

edit: paul aldrige(ex md) is fucked " Aldridge was found to have lied directly to Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore over the existance of documentation that should have been submitted. "


dave




dave

 

[Zeppo]

Lampard, Cole, Johnson, Defoe, Ferdinand etc - where has all the monies gone? There will be more to come on this. I hope West Ham stay up - 6 pointer with Wigan.

 

[kained&able]

tit camera, rigerbert song, davour suker, and a pile of other such toss mainly. Then dean ashton and a few other players with a use.

Oh and a sizable back hander or ten to arry i believe, ceratinly in the case of rio.


dave

 

[pagan]

what a fucking cop out...they should have had points deducted.
The FA have really out FA*'d themselves this time.

FA =verb to act like a bunch of overpayed, out of touch, incompetent tosspots ie, "Hey, we really FA'd giving the England job to a loser like McLaren"

 

[kained&able]

They were fined £2.5million for signing contracts which allowed a third-party influence over the club, and £3million for failing to inform the Premier League about it.

The panel decided a points deduction would not be a "proportionate punishment" on seven grounds, including West Ham's guilty plea, the fact the club is under new ownership and that they are fighting relegation.

A club statement read: "Following discussions with the FA Premier League, West Ham United can confirm Carlos Tevez is available for selection for the rest of the season, including tomorrow's game against Wigan Athletic.

"The actual registration of Carlos Tevez has not been called into question and he remains a West Ham United player approved by the Premier League."

The contractual ruling was handed down by the same independent tribunal which today fined the club for breaking two Premier League rules relating to the signings of Tevez and Mascherano - who has since moved to Liverpool - last August.

Tevez is a legally registered west ham player and always has been so we weren't fielding in elegible player(hence why we have bene able to play him while this has been going on) what we had is an illegal contract with his representives. So how could it merit a points deduction. He didn't win us points illegally win any games illegally or do anything at all that cost anyone points or gained us points. He is and was meant to be a west ham player, the only thing we fucked up was letting msi having a get out clause for him so he could fuck off in january for 2 million(what we allegdly paid). This is like what machereno did but thats not being said for the moment and who knows how the hell that one worked.
I know liverpool paid for him but who too and if its not us or corinthains then are they getting investigated? will we hear you'll never walk alone being sung as they are chucked out the championsleague places? Or do they just get special dsipensation while we get handed out a RECORED(x 4) fine?

Fashionable london clubs get all the best treatment.


dave(doesn't really want anything to happen to liverpool)

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It seems like a reasonable punishment to me. I don't really want to see the relegation places settled on deducted points unless it's something like match fixing. £5.5 million is a lot of money but I think with the amount of money in Premiership football smaller fines don't really have any impact.

How it works for West Ham depends on results really. If they get out of relegation then it's better for them than a points deduction. Odds are they'll go down though, in which case they'd have been better off just losing the points.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Lampard, Cole, Johnson, Defoe, Ferdinand etc - where has all the monies gone?

That was all a fair while ago. Most of that went on this

 

[pagan]

. He didn't win us points illegally win any games illegally or do anything at all that cost anyone points or gained us points.

yeah, he's been pretty shit eh? What-a-waste-of-moneeeey!

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Er, no, he hasn't been shit actually... In fact apart from this almighty fuckup he's been one of our few decent players this season. It's the rest of the team that has been shite.

 

[lopsidedbunny]

This decision is a disgrace. They should have been deducted points - no question. Seems like their man at the FA did his work. I wonder if he's paying their fine too?

You must support one of the teams above West Ham Utd. West Ham will pay the fine but to say that West Ham deserve to be deduted points is a bit harsh. As a West Ham fan myself as far West Ham Utd and it's fans were all aware it was all legit and once the point was raise the neassary paper were filled out.

It was strange whiles the Permership/FA was happy about the original deal if took the FIFA to make some noises, so obscure was this fault it took until the end of the football season for the disciplinary action to come around.

So to act all prime-a-dona strike me as typical a Spurs Fan.

 

[lopsidedbunny]

That was all a fair while ago. Most of that went on this

My brother is in that picture, o.k. a pin drop of a figure. Yes it is true that the money gone into rebuilding the stand it also interesting West Ham has got £200 million invested in oversea property. That's why that sudden interest in West Ham Utd and the possibly of the Stratford site.