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West Ham 2008-2009 thread

Football365 quoting the LA Galaxy website (although I can't find it on said site):

'On Thursday, July 24, at BMO Field in Toronto, Canada, Major League Soccer's brightest stars will test their skills against one of the best club teams in the world, West Ham United, of the English Premier League.'

Recognition at last.
 
heh...

well, look at it this way boys, for all the good will i have towards hull, their main challenge this season is not being worse than derby. plucky stoke are unlikely to make it, and there are plenty worse than us even on a bad day. we'll survive, and let's face it, despite the disappointments and occasional bouts of te/ium, 10th isn't too bad. the spuds and newcastle are the ones who we can consider to be our challengers for 08/09, and we're likely to suffer the same problems as them - being our own worst enemies. if we can finish above the spuds for a second year running i'll be happy. a decent cup run, i'll be happy. not needing to be doing the relegation battle maths come march, i'll be fucking ecstatic. deano needs to find his form, and he needs a high quality partner up front. hopefully bellamy will be that man. we need to be knocking in those goals. another couple of sturdy boys at the back who are flexible in position would be lovely, and mccartney, panstil etc have played their little hearts out but are simply not the talents we need to go any further, IYSWIM.

tl;dr less injuries, more goals, couple of talented defensive L&R types, hilarious lightning strike on WHL, and our seasons a good 'un.
 
mattie said:
Football365 quoting the LA Galaxy website (although I can't find it on said site):

'On Thursday, July 24, at BMO Field in Toronto, Canada, Major League Soccer's brightest stars will test their skills against one of the best club teams in the world, West Ham United, of the English Premier League.'

Recognition at last.
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:D:D:cool::cool:
 
To be honest with you bluey I think the main complaint most fans have is the tedium though. I think 10th is a decent finish, it's just that, barring a few games like the early season 3-0 at reading and the astounding 5-0 win at derby, we played boring football.

Mind you, the home win over man u was also ace.
 
bluestreak said:
heh...
and mccartney, panstil etc have played their little hearts out but are simply not the talents we need to go any further, IYSWIM.
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Ooh got to take issue with the first of those. Going by the people on KUMB who go all the time, McCartney is one of the highest rated of our players, by the fans - for most it was a tossup between him, Green and Upson for POTY.

Most say that getting, say, Shorey in as replacement wouldn't be all that much of an improvement, if at all.

We need to be looking at getting rid of people like LBM, that's for sure.
 
The thing is, no-one ever expected McCartney to be much cop, he was really brought in as a squad player who shone given the chances he had. I personally think he did amazingly well and we owe him a lot. I just wonder if he's going to be improving and holding his place as we aim to turn ourselves from also-rans into challengers for that elusive european slot? i'm not saying get rid of him, but i'm not convinced that he's going to be good enough for long enough should the management get the chance for team development (as opposed to patching leaks as we did this season).
 
Right, but what better (realistic) leftback targets are there?

Of course, if the new direction brought in by nani is to look abroad, so be it, but domestically, I don't see anyone as being substantially better.
 
RenegadeDog said:
To be honest with you bluey I think the main complaint most fans have is the tedium though. I think 10th is a decent finish, it's just that, barring a few games like the early season 3-0 at reading and the astounding 5-0 win at derby, we played boring football.

Mind you, the home win over man u was also ace.
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I'd agree with that, it's just been dull this season.

However, I'd argue that bluestreak's on to something when he says we'll be glad to avoid the relegation dogfight - I remember it as being exciting, but I wonder how I'd remember it if we had been relegated. I certainly didn't enjoy it at the time, but it;s all coloured by warm memories of a win at Old Trafford and blessed relief.
 
RenegadeDog said:
Right, but what better (realistic) leftback targets are there?

Of course, if the new direction brought in by nani is to look abroad, so be it, but domestically, I don't see anyone as being substantially better.
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Ah, now you're asking realistic questions. Haven't the foggiest mate tbf. And I'm not one for advocating clearing out the old without bringing in the new (though I will make an exception for the Snake That Has Ceased To Strike (does Portugal have fjords he could be pining for?)...

However, and fortunately, this Nani fellow has been brought in to find appropriate replacements. If I'd been brought in to do the job, I'd have had to phone my little brother and ask who'd he'd buy for his Champ Man team, and then we really would be in trouble.
 
Apropos of nothing, we have the highest proportion of English players of any Premiership team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7417746.stm

Someone at the beeb's gone a bit mad with the figures (just worked out the chart option in excel, most likely) - the first diagram is a good example of when not to use false axes. The second one shows the number of English players per team which is what I'm referring to. The third is getting a bit boring.
 
Think they mioght be that little bit to similer to be honest. Both of em will like to drop off a bit too much and england don't exactly have anyone on the wings to get ahead of the strikers and who knws whats going on in the centre of the park. Rooney/defoe would be my choice of strikers with ashton as rooneys understudy.

Mcarthey is better then shorey i have decided and if he isn't he is as good.

No idea who is about at the minute in terms of left backs traore off of arsenal would be nice but wont happen, not really found any good left backs on champmanager either. Tis what we have a new european scout for though innit.

dave
 
Dean Ashton has agreed a new five-year contract at West Ham and will almost treble his salary. (Daily Star)

Let's hope he regains his form then, eh?
 
star are chatting out of thier arses. He is set for talks with the chairmen(or whoever sorts it out) once he has returned from england duty.

dave
 
kained&able said:
doesnt say just he is put up for sale as part of our clearout.

dave
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hmmm... not sure.. he is an absolute fuckin idiot but he's not a bad player when he gets his head together. And, even though we have 25 centre backs, none of em were fit last year
 
I'm not convinced I approve of selling Anton. But is that sentimentality? he has his moments, but it's pretty clear now that he's never going to be as good as Rio (remember when we could talk about him potentially being better without people laughing and throwing things?) - but as a squad player, could we replace him with better for the money we get for him?
 
I'm not sure either. He is going to a good defender but he is merely competent at the moment and not sure if i want him in the starting lineup regularly untill he is good. Bench warming at a slighly bigger club might be good for him and we should get a pretty penny for him.

Depends who else we can get in i guess. 7-9 million and i wont complain too loudly.

Centre back rumours so far i have heard are richard dunne and steven taylor both of whom are probabley better.

dave
 
Spurs never seem to pay us decent money for our players (Carrick being a particularly galling example), and that seems the most likely destination for Anton if he should go.
 
More back page rumours today that he is going to Spurs for six million. It just doesn't seem right at that price. There must be more to this story than is being told.
 
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