nah just look at him.
It's like some fuckwitted hillbilly is alive and making inane comments on the internet.
Wes Anderson
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revol68
what, fucking what?
i think orang has a point..mr 68 who is yr favourite director?..someone whose films feature a lot of "action" perhaps?
nah I really like Almodóvar for example, he actually has real characters.
I'm not even adverse to heavily stylised stuff like Lynch's crazy shit, it atleast holds your interest and gives you something to think about.
Slightly embarrased to mention Loach but a few of his are good, atleast when he's not laying it on with a fucking shovel as is his want.
Coen Brothers rarely disappoint either.
Larry Clark is another cunt I hate.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I dunno how you find his characters emotionally engaging, I mean I'd grant the possibility that someone could really love his aesthetic (it actually makes me feel a wee bit queasy) or whatever but his characters are not emotionally engaging and to be fair to him I don't think he wants them to be, he's far too "droll and cool" for such sentiments.
You probably have a point about it being middle class, call me a philistine but I'd rate any episode of Shameless ten times more than his shit movies. Maybe the middle classes are just remakrably boring to everyone else but themselves.
In The Royal Tenenbaums, you really feel for Gwyneth Paltrow's character when you see her reacting to Gene Hackman referring to her pointedly as his 'adopted daughter'. In The Life Aquatic, the relationship between Owen Wilson's and Bill Murray's characters is charged with poignancy. It's all through his films, it's just not sledgehammered into you like it would in, say, a Spielburg or Howard film.
You probably have a point about it being middle class, call me a philistine but I'd rate any episode of Shameless ten times more than his shit movies. Maybe the middle classes are just remakrably boring to everyone else but themselves.
i don't know if I'd call you a philistine. Phenomenally immature, perhaps
I agree about TLA. Great film and as you say strangely moving.
But i really thought TRT was a waste of a fucking awesome cast.
revol68
what, fucking what?
I couldn't feel anything for Gwyneth Paltrow if I was passing her in a bowel movement and certainly not in an Anderson flick.
I fucking detest Spielburg.
revol68
what, fucking what?
i don't know if I'd call you a philistine. Phenomenally immature, perhaps
You do realise Anderson is name dropped by every early twenties poseur.
You do realise Anderson is name dropped by every early twenties poseur.
i'm afraid I don't know any early twenties poseurs. And since I doubt you do - what with you being a fierce class warrior who wouldn't mix with such types - I'm not sure I'm prepared to take your word for it.
What SHALL we do?
revol68
what, fucking what?
i'm afraid I don't know any early twenties poseurs. And since I doubt you do - what with you being a fierce class warrior who wouldn't mix with such types - I'm not sure I'm prepared to take your word for it.
What SHALL we do?
mixing with those types is what made me a fierce class warrior.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
You probably have a point about it being middle class, call me a philistine but I'd rate any episode of Shameless ten times more than his shit movies. Maybe the middle classes are just remakrably boring to everyone else but themselves.
As an aside, Shameless bores the tits off me, with its salt of the earth council estate people getting involved in countless kerazy scrapes. Perhaps I'm not working class enough to get it.
Shameless used to be great, but the heart has gone and it's jumped more sharks every series..
Anyway, surely only a total fuckwit chooses what they watch based on the class of the subjects involved?
I mean, jesus, Revol, do you do a class analysis of westerns or sci-fi movies and work out whether they're focussing on the right social strata?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
revol68
what, fucking what?
well they aren't salt of the earth and they are quite clearly caricuturised and yet despite the obvious exagerration and somewhat predictability of it, it manages to bring genuine moments of humanity to the characters. It has no pretensions and is explicit in having set characters for set roles and yet it still manages to have more rounded and real characters compared to Anderson's ohh so quirky cunts. Shameless let's it's bar lower and manages to exceed it, Anderson things he's setting his bar higher but never gets near it, is never as funny , clever, subtle or sardonic as he thinks he is.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
I disagree entirely. Mordant wit is not 'intentionally wacky'.
For real cinematic Catcher in the Rye-ism, try Igby Goes Down.
revol68
what, fucking what?
alright but overrated and like all Clarks shit comes across more as the voyeuristic wet dream of a dirty old man who fetishes youth more than your average Hitler Youth leader.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Wrong adjective really - I just find his humour a bit staged, a bit too aware of it's own cleverness. I can see WHY people like his work, and the reason I latched onto the CitR comment is because it's much the same - loads of people like it, I can see why but personally it leaves me completely cold. Same as LCD Soundsystem as well.
Can't stand Shameless either.
Can't stand Shameless either.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
One of my guilty pleasures, that one
I mean, i KNOW it's toss but....
I watched that by accident, by turning up to my local theater not knowing what is on, during 'mental health week'.
I got in for free by pretending I was with a load of NHS people.
revol68
what, fucking what?
yeah but it was very explicit about that and certainly wasn't soo far up it's own hole as Anderson's stuff.
Ach. I think this episode of Shameless is getting better after the disappointment of last series
I loved my mate from Salford's reaction to Shameless mind. He watched it looked puzzled and slightly underwhelmed - far from wacky, he just thought it was taking the piss out of home and half didn't believe it was meant to be a comedy
Wes Anderson's work leaves me cold. Clever in places, but I never like the films or characters within that much.
I loved my mate from Salford's reaction to Shameless mind. He watched it looked puzzled and slightly underwhelmed - far from wacky, he just thought it was taking the piss out of home and half didn't believe it was meant to be a comedy
Wes Anderson's work leaves me cold. Clever in places, but I never like the films or characters within that much.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
revol68
what, fucking what?
See this is exactly that, if I had the money, background and smug belief that people should actually give a fuck about my self indulgent wank fantasisies, like a middle class cunt like Anderson I'd knock some shit like that out.
If i was making a movie it'd be a fucking massive historical/political epic spanning from the Kronstadt uprising, through the Spanish Civil War and reach it's climax in the streets of Budapest '56. It'd have all the superficial props of a hollywood blockbuster (grand everburning romance that spanned the decades), that only served to emphasis it's politics. It'd be the movie equivalent of Generation Terrorist.
now THAT'S the funniest thing I've ever read
But it would also be the worst film ever made
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
That is worse wank fantasy than Wes Andersons.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
You know that it would be a pile of shit, because you want to make a statement about politics, not a film.
revol68
what, fucking what?
Also the old 'Well how good is the movie/album/painting you made.' Is the most pathetic response to criticism ever. I'm not fucking paid millions or handed such budgets and let's face it if it was applied consistently there'd be fuck all interesting to discuss on here or anywhere else. Football discussion would be particularly excellent, "Dirk Kuyt is an excellent player, a top class finisher, I mean yes he's done fuck all throughout the season but at the end of the day if he came down to my 5 a side match on a firday night he'd humiliate me and my mates. So hey who am i to criticise?"
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