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Were the BBC right to squander OUR money on this F1 farce?

Go on then, try me. What skill does the tour de france require?

The ability to read your rivals, when they're weak and thus when to attack to cause the most damage. Also the management of your own ability and efforts over a 4-6 hour period, based around the actions of others and the terrain. Descending is a valuable skill which can gain a lot of time, and a well led-out sprint train is something to behold, as a Cavendish-Boonen-Steegmans is launched to stage victory. These are just examples of many.
 
I quite like F1 , but I quite like tactical things , which is why I like the tour de france and other cycling but you can't really watch it as highlights because you don't appreciate the tactical decisions properly .
 
F1 is a decent sport. Properly exciting and dramatic, with good disputes and grudges. Also, anyone that says F1 drivers aren't talented is obviously an idiot.
 
F1 is a decent sport. Properly exciting and dramatic, with good disputes and grudges. Also, anyone that says F1 drivers aren't talented is obviously an idiot.

I dunno. I don't mind the racing, although I think that the circuits aren't a patch on their predecessors in terms of the driving challenge they provide.

What irks me about F1 is the way fans seem to be treated as walking wallets, there to be milked at will and almost an inconvenience the rest of the time.

Compare that with other forms of racing, the one I'm thinking of in particular is the Le Mans 24 Hours as I'm a Le Mans veteran myself and I find that, personally, the Le Mans experience is infinitely better than an F1 experience. At Le Mans, I can go from Plymouth to Le Mans, for the whole of race week including transport, ticket price, food, drink, merchandise, and so on, and still have enough in my pocket for some duty free on the way home. If I were to go to the British Grand Prix, I'd be lucky to pay just for for race weekend for the same money. At Le Mans you get a pit walk the day before the race, which is open to everybody, is free, and you can take as many pictures of the inside of the garages from the pit lane as you want. At Le Mans, you can meet the drivers, in person, up close and, if you're lucky and they've got the time, it's been known for drivers to sit down with fans and actually have a beer with them and talk racing. Autographs are pretty much freely available, and you don't have to put your autogrpah book through a screen of metal mesh fencing to get one. And you could always find yourself rubbing shoulders with some of the real legends of the sport, Sir Stirling Moss being an annual visitor to Le Mans, among a host of other former drivers, and they don't usually mind stopping for a chat and an autograph either.

I remember taking an old mate of mine to Le Mans for his first time a few years ago. Having been to Le Mans once and experienced the way fans are treated there, his response was that he'll probably never attend the British Grand Prix again if he can go to Le Mans instead.
 
It's been an exciting season alright. Will Jenson Bellend clinch the title before all the fans wither and die from the sheer tedium and despair of it all? Will one of the drivers die in a hideous fireball and thus succeed in being faintly interesting for once, albeit posthumously? Will one of the comentators slip up and finally admit that the bloke with the fastest car tends to win, regardless of whether or not he can tell a gearstick from his own cock? Will David Coulthard's chin finally engulf the entire globe? Will the whole thing collapse into an inusrmountable bunfight due to the highly principled matter of cash, only to be reborn next year with a slightly different name and a different nazi heir in charge?

Who the fuck cares?
 
I dunno. I don't mind the racing, although I think that the circuits aren't a patch on their predecessors in terms of the driving challenge they provide.
Well you're right there. The newer circuits are engineered to be perfect, which rather takes the fun away imo. Give me the old fashioned circuits, with their uneven surfaces and dodgy cambers, any day.
It was the word 'decent' that got me. Imho, it's as dull a sport as there is. Go karts for spoilt grown ups.
I meant decent as in 'good quality'. You're right to say that it's go karts for spoilt grown ups, but those spoilt grown ups tend to be incredibly focused and talented sportsmen. It is a rich mans sport, and that is incredibly frustrating. I have a friend who is an excellent racing driver, won a Season of Formula Vee a few years ago without even entering all the races, and competed in Formula Ford, but he will never be able to fulfil his potential because he doesn't have enough money. It's sad, but if you can look past that then the sport is one of the very finest on the planet, imo.
 
They could sack qualifying and make it so the winner of the last race starts from the back :)
 
They could sack qualifying and make it so the winner of the last race starts from the back :)

Reverse grid starts have been tried in British Touring Car racing, they've also tried having what's known as 'success ballast' which is a weight penalty added to winning cars in the next race.

It seems to have worked well in terms of evening things out and making the eacing itself much more exciting to watch, I have to admit. I'd far rather watch the British Touring Car Championship than F1 any time.
 
According to an a Telegraph article dated 21/3/08, the BBC paid £150 million for a five year deal. Value for money for an alleged sport which, as even its own followers admit, features little actual racing?

That's £20m less than they pay for 6-hour delayed highlights of the Premier League, which attract about 25% fewer viewers.
 
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