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i can tell, from years of lurking, on various forums of various political stripes - shutting down the security services is a NOBLE CAUSE - and if we can have a few crates and bottles, then a;; the better. all the bettefr
 
i can tell, from years of lurking, on various forums of various political stripes - shutting down the security services is a NOBLE CAUSE - and if we can have a few crates and bottles, then a;; the better. all the bettefr
And all the better if you can stagger drunkenly around the place for a bit, first, before yelling "YAWORRAWOSSATDIDGERCALLOURMUMAPINTARRRRGH!!!" and staggering around some more while pissing down your leg and catching Spook Central with a bit of accidental overspray: that way maintaining your cover as a rabble of pissheads rather than the clear and present danger to one of Her Majesty's spy operations that you so clearly are.
 
When I read the thread title I guessed immediately that kingfisher was launching another protest.

Clearly he (she? not likely, but possible I suppose) is either a righteous battler against the machinations of the secret state, with a well-considered strategy to bring it to the world's attention, casting informative and effective pearls before the complacent swine of Urban, or a complete fucking loon.
 
When I read the thread title I guessed immediately that kingfisher was launching another protest.

Clearly he (she? not likely, but possible I suppose) is either a righteous battler against the machinations of the secret state, with a well-considered strategy to bring it to the world's attention, casting informative and effective pearls before the complacent swine of Urban, or a complete fucking loon.
...and it's so hard to tell which it is... :D
 
eh well be there, Green and black chocolate not responding to my emails requesting a legal observer , wonder why? eh call them in the morning. i reckon therll be a fair few walk pasts on teuday, either eyes fixed forward, or with a little glance, - i want to get into the heritidge bar in the basement. and ask em why they cant get back to good old fashioned counter espionage
 
eh well be there, Green and black chocolate not responding to my emails requesting a legal observer , wonder why? eh call them in the morning. i reckon therll be a fair few walk pasts on teuday, either eyes fixed forward, or with a little glance, - i want to get into the heritidge bar in the basement. and ask em why they cant get back to good old fashioned counter espionage
see how much they offer for touts these days, don't want to sell yourself short
 
So people who aren't as special and as educated as you, don't get the right to protest?

Leaving aside the problematic language of rights, yes, of course people are free to take any political action they want. And we are free to criticize it as pointless, retrogressive, and damaging to a wider political project if we consider it such.

In this case it's less damaging to a wider movement, and more damaging to kingfisher I suspect.
 
Leaving aside the problematic language of rights, yes, of course people are free to take any political action they want. And we are free to criticize it as pointless, retrogressive, and damaging to a wider political project if we consider it such.

In this case it's less damaging to a wider movement, and more damaging to kingfisher I suspect.
so why are you so utterly opposed to it? It seems really snobby from here. I'm sorry if that's not the intention, but it's how it looks.
 
Depends what you mean by snobby? This person has come on here claiming all sorts of people are spies and/or undercover cops, or are funded to disrupt movements and groups. Of course with no evidence for any of these really serious accusations that in some parts of the world would put the people who are being accused lives in danger.

Even trying to scrape a high level of understanding and empathy out of my weary body that's a pretty fucked up thing to do and at the very least deserves to be treated with anger and dismissal.

Maybe their MI5 protest should be treated as a separate project, but it's hard not to connect the two...
 
Depends what you mean by snobby? This person has come on here claiming all sorts of people are spies and/or undercover cops, or are funded to disrupt movements and groups. Of course with no evidence for any of these really serious accusations that in some parts of the world would put the people who are being accused lives in danger.

Even trying to scrape a high level of understanding and empathy out of my weary body that's a pretty fucked up thing to do and at the very least deserves to be treated with anger and dismissal.

Maybe their MI5 protest should be treated as a separate project, but it's hard not to connect the two...
What do I mean by snobby? I guess I mean it looks like you're looking down on KF for having enough gumption to stand up for what he believes in. If even 1% of the population had that passion... I can see that he comes across as a rambling nutter, but sometimes that's a symptom of passion. From what I've read of your posts, you seem to be a seasoned protester and a very level headed person. I'm sure you've been in a position where something has angered you so much, that it's been difficult for you to get your point across cos feelings get in the way and make you look psychotic. (just ask any Sun/Daily Mail reader about any kind of protester, and you'll get the kind of opinion which you have of KF, 'they're all loons')

And there has been a mass cover up of peadophile activity in our goverments, there's a big investigation into it. But it's being hushed up at every turn. That shit should be front page news every fucking single day until it's properly resolved and anyone guilty of such heinous acts are brought to justice. Not left until they fucking die and then say 'oh shit, yeah, we all knew Saville was a nonce' Those people ARE being protected. And Theresa May hereself said, it runs deeper and is far more twisted than anyone will ever believe. This is serious shit, and people need to get out there and protest it until they re blue in the face. And I applaud ANY attempt, no matter how futile, to get this out there. I'm sorry you don't.
 
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