wenger: taylor should never play football again

[Jazzz]

No way did Taylor mean to do that .. I feel incredibly sorry for Eduardo but I also feel for Taylor because you could see he was gutted himself. It wasn't a red card even and maybe not even yellow imo

Now that's a fair argument in support of Taylor.

 

[Phenotypic Dai]

The point - which I have made carefully - is that if you act recklessly you may rightly be held responsible for the damage which then occurs.

You've made a bunch of wishy washy metaphorical statements about driving.

 

[JTG]

Now that's a fair argument in support of Taylor.

well said, now let's all move on

 

[pastieburt]

The point - which I have made carefully - is that if you act recklessly you may rightly be held responsible for the damage which then occurs.

but it's a sport, so in f1 when senna had that crash that killed him, did they ban driving altogether to stop accidents like that happening? no, injuries happen in all kinds of sport, taylor never broke eduardos leg on purpose. so unless you are in favour of banning tackling altogether, please shut up.

 

[Jazzz]

but it's a sport, so in f1 when senna had that crash that killed him, did they ban driving altogether to stop accidents like that happening? no, injuries happen in all kinds of sport, taylor never broke eduardos leg on purpose. so unless you are in favour of banning tackling altogether, please shut up.

If you stopped making damnfool comments like this I'd find that a lot easier. Ayrton Senna's crash was extremely serious. From wikipedia

"To this day, the cause of the accident has still not been fully determined after many court cases, including Williams being investigated for manslaughter though the charges were later dropped."

So if Williams were proved negligent then they'd face imprisonment and huge fines. It is absolutely not a case of 'shit happens' if someone acts recklessly. It is no different in sport to any other endeavour.

 

[Deareg]

just watched the youtube that has been posted up and i still don't think it was a bad tackle, i feel really sorry for eduardo, but it looks to me to have been accidental, i don't think the ref intended sending him off until he saw how bad the injury was

 

[agricola]

but it's a sport, so in f1 when senna had that crash that killed him, did they ban driving altogether to stop accidents like that happening? no, injuries happen in all kinds of sport, taylor never broke eduardos leg on purpose. so unless you are in favour of banning tackling altogether, please shut up.

Oh do fuck off. Is there anyone here who doesnt think that it was a red card?

 

[editor]

The point - which I have made carefully - is that if you act recklessly you may rightly be held responsible for the damage which then occurs.

So not only would you like tough-but-legal tackling outlawed you'd like the offenders 'held responsible' and punished, even when it's blatantly clear that there was no real malice involved?

Maybe they should do away with some of the subs on the bench and put in a few lawyers instead, just in case. And the fans can pay their bills!

 

[Deareg]

Oh do fuck off. Is there anyone here who doesnt think that it was a red card?

see post 66

 

[agricola]

see post 66

Ok then - how is a studs-up challenge on someones ankle that entirely misses the ball and breaks someones leg not a red card?

 

[Deareg]

I don't see how you are confused - you've just put my point exactly. The outcome is crucial. That's why a tackle which actually shatters a leg in two should rightly be treated differently to a tackle which might look similar but does no damage. Just as a speeding motorist who actually kills someone is (and should be) treated differently to a motorist who simply speeds. After all, there are speeding motorists 'day in, day out'. Is it clear now?

you have never been the same since your run in with gazza, have you?

 

[Deareg]

Ok then - how is a studs-up challenge on someones ankle that entirely misses the ball and breaks someones leg not a red card?

you must have better eye sight than me because i can't see the clip clearly enough to see whether his studs were up or not at the point of impact, i don't yet believe it was malicious

 

[Relahni]

tbh, I think a lot of challenges this season have been outrageous.

I like hard tackles, but don't take the piss eh? banned for life? fuck off Arsne?

 

[JTG]

nothing remotely conclusive on Youtube and any videos on there seem to be in the process of being removed.

What I have seen shows him going in hard but doesn't show where the ball was precisely etc.

 

[Deareg]

i have just seen the photos on the other thread and they make it look a lot more vicious than the youtube click, Agricola may have a point about him deserving to be sent off

 

[revol68]

I think we can all easily agree that Jazz's views on anything are worthless.

 

[pastieburt]

i agree.

 

[revol68]

i have just seen the photos on the other thread and they make it look a lot more vicious than the youtube click, Agricola may have a point about him deserving to be sent off

photo's are alot more decpetive than a video clip.

it was a yellow card tackle I thought and i don't think the ref would have sent him off except for the extent of the injury. I don't think it was malicious, Eduardo just moved the ball to quickly for him.

 

[nuffsaid]

To all those Wenger detractors who say he never sees anything, that may be so but at least he faces the cameras everytime, unlike a certain red nosed one who threw his toys out of his pram so long ago you've probably forgotten Fergie refuses to talk to the beeb and sends his puppet out instead.

So Wenger might go off on one and I'm happy to admit he's a bad loser, but the guy is human and at least he doesn't refuse to show his face.

May I refer you to my username.....

 

[Deareg]

photo's are alot more decpetive than a video clip.

it was a yellow card tackle I thought and i don't think the ref would have sent him off except for the extent of the injury. I don't think it was malicious, Eduardo just moved the ball to quickly for him.

that is what i thought at first, hope you are right

 

[Deareg]

To all those Wenger detractors who say he never sees anything, that may be so but at least he faces the cameras everytime, unlike a certain red nosed one who threw his toys out of his pram so long ago you've probably forgotten Fergie refuses to talk to the beeb and sends his puppet out instead.

So Wenger might go off on one and I'm happy to admit he's a bad loser, but the guy is human and at least he doesn't refuse to show his face.

May I refer you to my username.....

what is the point of being interviewed if you never see anything?

 

[Stobart Stopper]

Still don't see why the tv channels are being all squeamish about it, here's what it probably looked like under his sock:
http://www.itim.nsw.gov.au/images/2A54AE6D-1321-1C29-707811D2028CC580_mid.jpg

It's only if it goes through a femural artery you get a spurt of blood and you can die.

 

[agricola]

tbh, I think a lot of challenges this season have been outrageous.

I like hard tackles, but don't take the piss eh? banned for life? fuck off Arsne?

That is Wenger talking rubbish, though admittedly (for once) he can perhaps be excused. Jazzz may also have a long history of bollocks statements, but even a broken clock is right twice a day - the FA should recognize the damage done when taking what is already a foul into account.

 

[JTG]

i have just seen the photos on the other thread and they make it look a lot more vicious than the youtube click, Agricola may have a point about him deserving to be sent off

photos are worse than useless in this instance, we know he took his leg, otherwise it wouldn't be broken. The pics don't show where the ball was, the angle of the challenge, nothing.

 

[Deareg]

photos are worse than useless in this instance, we know he took his leg, otherwise it wouldn't be broken. The pics don't show where the ball was, the angle of the challenge, nothing.

true, i hope this is the case

 

[agricola]

photo's are alot more decpetive than a video clip.

it was a yellow card tackle I thought and i don't think the ref would have sent him off except for the extent of the injury. I don't think it was malicious, Eduardo just moved the ball to quickly for him.

there is bias and then there is idiocy.

 

[revol68]

that is what i thought at first, hope you are right

Well the way i see it if Eduardo hadn't been injured and the ref had sent taylor off for it there would have been an outcry about OTT reffing and the removing of tackling from the game.

Think, was it any worse than the tackle Robbie Keane got sent off for?

 

[Phenotypic Dai]

i have just seen the photos on the other thread and they make it look a lot more vicious than the youtube click, Agricola may have a point about him deserving to be sent off

The ref sent Taylor off without youtube.

The argument about it being a life banning offence is still up for grabs.

I say it's bollocks.

What about you?

 

[agricola]

photos are worse than useless in this instance, we know he took his leg, otherwise it wouldn't be broken. The pics don't show where the ball was, the angle of the challenge, nothing.

No, but that youtube video on page 2 does. It was a late challenge, it was studs up, it was clearly dangerous and its broken someones leg.

 

[agricola]

Well the way i see it if Eduardo hadn't been injured and the ref had sent taylor off for it there would have been an outcry about OTT reffing and the removing of tackling from the game.

Think, was it any worse than the tackle Robbie Keane got sent off for?

Yes, because Robbie Keane didnt break someones leg.