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Welsh language protest

Remember a recent weirdo (not on Urban) who complained that there shouldn't be any Welsh language on road signs because the extra time taken to realise that the bit he wanted to read was the English version was dangerous and could cause accidents? :facepalm:. I'd prefer anyone that slow of brain not to be driving, really.
Nah that is fair, the Welsh need to cut to the chase
 
Remember a recent weirdo (not on Urban) who complained that there shouldn't be any Welsh language on road signs because the extra time taken to realise that the bit he wanted to read was the English version was dangerous and could cause accidents? :facepalm:. I'd prefer anyone that slow of brain not to be driving, really.
that one is often trotted out, as well as the cost to have 2 lines instead of 1 on a sign
 
I don't hate the Welsh language :facepalm: I just don't understand why a dead language should be compulsorily taught. Latin is no longer compulsory, because it's pretty much only doctors who use it, so why do we cling on to languages that only serve to distance us from others? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a zealot. If I'm travelling to a new country that speaks a different language, I'll learn the basics of that language before I travel. It would be extremely arrogant not to, but when only a handful of people speak the language, what's the point?
I am drunkenly reading your posts but I wouldn't be in favour of gaelic being compulsory here , so probs agree
 
I went to a Scottish Gaelic school but I can't be fucked with most of the people that speak it. There were larger regions of wales that *always * spoke Welsh at any given time than in scotland, this is where you will see a difference between attitudes to.Welsh and Irish and gaelic in my opinion, though political celts plague all three places.
I can't be bothered with most of the people that speak English, but actually that's just because I'm a grumpy antisocial git. The sentence works just as well if it ends at people". :D
 
that one is often trotted out, as well as the cost to have 2 lines instead of 1 on a sign
Honestly? Good grief! Surely people's brains click on the words they DO understand? I loved bilingual signs on roads, in shops, libraries, student campus, everywhere because they were usefully educational. Admittedly, had the powers that be sorted out all the diversions as soon as I had learned the word, that would have been cool too.
 
I am drunkenly reading your posts but I wouldn't be in favour of gaelic being compulsory here , so probs agree
How about compulsory for a year or two but optional thereafter? I would have liked that.

When I first went to secondary school I was very annoyed about which things were compulsory for the first two years. Didn't mind the compulsory French, English, History, Geography, Maths and so on, but I was furious that it was compulsory to have classes in cooking and sewing. For girls only! :mad::mad::mad: Boys had compulsory woodwork and metalwork and I daresay they might have been annoyed about that. I don't know. Compulsory Gaelic would have been much more fun. And more useful than stupid fish pie.

And yes, I am still annoyed. That was in 1973. Is it time for me to stop bearing this grudge? :D
 
How about compulsory for a year or two but optional thereafter? I would have liked that.

When I first went to secondary school I was very annoyed about which things were compulsory for the first two years. Didn't mind the compulsory French, English, History, Geography, Maths and so on, but I was furious that it was compulsory to have classes in cooking and sewing. For girls only! :mad::mad::mad: Boys had compulsory woodwork and metalwork and I daresay they might have been annoyed about that. I don't know. Compulsory Gaelic would have been much more fun. And more useful than stupid fish pie.

And yes, I am still annoyed. That was in 1973. Is it time for me to stop bearing this grudge? :D
I voluntarily took needlework and cooking in my third year :D Needles ( :D ) to say, I got some stick for it, but I also took woodwork and metalwork, and now I can not only bake you a cake, but I can make the baking tray, and knit it a woolly jumper if it gets cold :D
 
Ooh! < note to self: find Saul Goodman and kidnap him > Now, about the woodwork, does that mean you could build bookshelves too? :D

The woolly jumper, though? Did you mean you would knit a jumper for the cake, or for the baking-tray? :confused: It's just that I have never heard either thing complain about being cold. Maybe they're just very stoic. Could be that, I suppose.

I ought to learn to sew and knit. It would be quite good, but the compulsory nature of it put me right off.
 
Ooh! < note to self: find Saul Goodman and kidnap him > Now, about the woodwork, does that mean you could build bookshelves too? :D
I can build anything, from a lego toy to a helicopter :D (no, seriously)
I've always thought that you should be able to do anything that you'd need to do if the world was suddenly faced with a cataclysmic scenario. I'm not one of those weird 'preppers', but if there was a worldwide electricity cut-off tomorrow, I'd be the one with lights, and I'd be able to survive without a problem :D

The woolly jumper, though? Did you mean you would knit a jumper for the cake, or for the baking-tray? :confused: It's just that I have never heard either thing complain about being cold. Maybe they're just very stoic. Could be that, I suppose.
They're both inanimate objects. They tend to not say very much :D
 
Perhaps anyone living where it is OK to have a real fire could manage cooking and light. Bummer about no internet, though. :eek:

I suddenly have a plan! Could go and sort of sneakily squat in CAT in Machynlleth.
 
Perhaps anyone living where it is OK to have a real fire could manage cooking and light. Bummer about no internet, though. :eek:

I suddenly have a plan! Could go and sort of sneakily squat in CAT in Machynlleth.
That's where my Bear Grylls life would fail. I think I'd completely lose the plot without internet access :facepalm:
 
It's an Anglo thing to have one language, English, and be threatened by others. You see the influence in Australia, US ,NZ etc where Anglo offspring whinge about dead languages etc and why should kids learn them when imperialism did it's best at wiping out local culture.
 
How about compulsory for a year or two but optional thereafter? I would have liked that.

When I first went to secondary school I was very annoyed about which things were compulsory for the first two years. Didn't mind the compulsory French, English, History, Geography, Maths and so on, but I was furious that it was compulsory to have classes in cooking and sewing. For girls only! :mad::mad::mad: Boys had compulsory woodwork and metalwork and I daresay they might have been annoyed about that. I don't know. Compulsory Gaelic would have been much more fun. And more useful than stupid fish pie.

And yes, I am still annoyed. That was in 1973. Is it time for me to stop bearing this grudge? :D
I'd much rather we had compulsive scots, rather than dragging the West coast stuff over to the East . This would also have the bonus of annoying those indigenous language seeknin twats. Scots is way better, for example have you ever tried telling someone you love them in Gaelic? It's about as romantic as a doorknob. They do rejection really well though, love that shit. See Martyn Bennett's version of Ho Rinn O.
 
It's an Anglo thing to have one language, English, and be threatened by others. You see the influence in Australia, US ,NZ etc where Anglo offspring whinge about dead languages etc and why should kids learn them when imperialism did it's best at wiping out local culture.
It's hardly exclusively Anglo, is it?

Off the top of my head, France and Spain are pretty hot at actively pushing one official national language and squashing any others. I'm sure there are other examples others can point out too...
 
It's hardly exclusively Anglo, is it?

Off the top of my head, France and Spain are pretty hot at actively pushing one official national language and squashing any others. I'm sure there are other examples others can point out too...
China's terrible for various non-Mandarin forms of Chinese and not much better for the non-Sinitic languages. And dozens of them have millions of underserved speakers.
 
Not quite true
Loads of Gael scoileanna being built. Gaeilge is very strong in the younger generation.
Many are bilingual. It's definitely not a dead language.
This is true, there has been a large increase in children attending Irish schools and there is a growing population of speakers in the North too, with even some people from a unionist background.

I did my postgrad in Aberystwyth and it was one of the highlights of my time there to hear Welsh spoken so freely. It’s beautiful.

Of course Language can be used to Other people and to mark people out, but that’s not the languages fault. I wish I’d worked harder at Irish in School. Maybe when I get back home I’ll take classes again.
 
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It's hardly exclusively Anglo, is it?

Off the top of my head, France and Spain are pretty hot at actively pushing one official national language and squashing any others. I'm sure there are other examples others can point out too...

France and Spain have local languages recognised in the localities they are spoken in and have done for some time. Probably reflects the more decentralised nature of France and Spain.

Eta-not comparable, I suppose, given that English was the language of comerce for the world's largest empire.

More eta: looking at regional languages in France and Spain, the history is fucking dire, too. OK, I was talking bollocks with this Anglo thing. It's an imperialism thing.
 
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I’ve been asked to source a Welsh person to do a presentation about how they have managed what they have won so far for Maori Iwi (tribal) leaders in New Zealand, when I emailed the Welsh government they got very excited about helping.
 
I’ve been asked to source a Welsh person to do a presentation about how they have managed what they have won so far for Maori Iwi (tribal) leaders in New Zealand, when I emailed the Welsh government they got very excited about helping.
Can you remind me what we've won again?
 
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