Welsh language protest
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8ball
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Not entirely true - successive English governments have failed to convince employers that it's worth paying extra for somebody born here who's learnt French when they can get a mother tongue French speaker (without paying the premium for an extra few years of study) and only have to get them used to the difference in workplace cultures.the two things aren't necessarily connectedsuccessive english governments have failed to teach anyone French despite having hours and hours of it on the curriculum. <snip>
FFS it's only page 3!I only see 4 pages. I didn't think I had that many people on ignore.
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Widescreen lappy, now page 4.
8ball
As seen on TikTok
I don't think peaceful protest should ever be considered 'wrong', though it may be wrong-headed.
It strikes me as pertinent that you say 'preserve', which is something you do to dead things - I'd rather Welsh be a vibrant living language, which would mean it would evolve, which would mean the Welsh spoken in 200 years time (optimistic hat on here) would be very different to that which was repressed by the English.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It's a shame none of them could understand a word you were saying
It's a shame none of them could understand a word you were saying
Last time I was there numerous people spoke to me in Welsh. It's my shame that I couldn't understand them. My father spoke Welsh, and so did his parents.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Pardon??It's a shame none of them could understand a word you were saying
they all could as it goes
nogojones
spelling is overrated
He said... Mae'n drueni na allai unrhyw un ohonynt ddeall gair a ddywedasoch
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It's mad, the difference between Ireland and Wales. Pretty much everyone I've spoken to in Ireland hates that they had to learn Irish (it's compulsory). They all wish it would just die out, as (almost) nobody uses it, but, from the graph above, it seems the Welsh want to cling onto Welsh. Do you think this a nationalist thing? A hatred of the English? I find it hard to believe it's the latter, as the Irish should have a stronger hatred of the English... or maybe the Irish just realise it's time to let go, and accept that their language is pretty much obsolete?
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Depends on where in Ireland I guess. Most of my family are Donegal and its still their first language
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Most of my family are in Ireland. I was born here, and (almost) all of my friends live here, and apart from Connemara and Donegal, there's virtually nowhere in Ireland with a Gaelic speaking community.
My sister and partner are both ultra-fluent in Welsh.
I'm not bad myself at understanding just the gist of a Welsh conversation in Swansea.
Not that we hear many of those here in SA, and when we do hear Cymraeg, I tend to assume that they're from out of town -- Upper Swansea Valley/Cwm Abertawe Uchaf (?), or Caerfyddin area etc.
I can only speak basic/simple Welsh myself. Nos da!
I'm not bad myself at understanding just the gist of a Welsh conversation in Swansea.
Not that we hear many of those here in SA, and when we do hear Cymraeg, I tend to assume that they're from out of town -- Upper Swansea Valley/Cwm Abertawe Uchaf (?)
, or Caerfyddin area etc.I can only speak basic/simple Welsh myself. Nos da!
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Actually, I find this quite insulting. Would I dare to question your knowledge of Scotland? I'm stating actual facts. Go onto any Irish forum and stick up a poll to see how many Irish people speak Gaelic, and how many would like to see it struck from the curriculum.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
The people I met in Ireland wished they had kept learning and using it
Welsh language use is increasing, no it's not a nationalist thing, plenty of immigrants learn Welsh
Why would you want it to die out? who wants a 1 language country? Find it weird some people have so much hate for the Welsh language tbh
Welsh language use is increasing, no it's not a nationalist thing, plenty of immigrants learn Welsh
Why would you want it to die out? who wants a 1 language country? Find it weird some people have so much hate for the Welsh language tbh
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
FFA COFFI PAWB
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I don't hate the Welsh language
I just don't understand why a dead language should be compulsorily taught. Latin is no longer compulsory, because it's pretty much only doctors who use it, so why do we cling on to languages that only serve to distance us from others? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a zealot. If I'm travelling to a new country that speaks a different language, I'll learn the basics of that language before I travel. It would be extremely arrogant not to, but when only a handful of people speak the language, what's the point?
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
I went to a Scottish Gaelic school but I can't be fucked with most of the people that speak it. There were larger regions of wales that *always * spoke Welsh at any given time than in scotland, this is where you will see a difference between attitudes to.Welsh and Irish and gaelic in my opinion, though political celts plague all three places.
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
Maybe, I mean fucked if I know
Remember a recent weirdo (not on Urban) who complained that there shouldn't be any Welsh language on road signs because the extra time taken to realise that the bit he wanted to read was the English version was dangerous and could cause accidents? . I'd prefer anyone that slow of brain not to be driving, really.
. I'd prefer anyone that slow of brain not to be driving, really.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
I haven't said you doI don't hate the Welsh language
IT IS NOT A DEAD LANGUAGE, ok
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