Welling United v Dulwich Hamlet (National League South, Saturday 4 August)

Discussion in 'Dulwich Hamlet FC' started by darryl, Jul 29, 2018.

  1. darryl

    darryl this wasn't supposed to happen

    Here we go then! Lovely Oyster away day and a very local trip for many.

    Welling haven't updated their ticket prices but last season it was £12: Buy Tickets – Matchday 2017/18

    Getting there: Park View Road, DA16 1SY

    It's between Welling (zone 4) and Bexleyheath (zone 5) railway stations - trains from Denmark Hill, Peckham Rye, Nunhead, Lewisham, London Bridge. Thrifty travellers may prefer the 486 bus from North Greenwich tube or 89 from Lewisham (get off at Guy, Earl of Warwick - both take about 30-40 minutes - 89 might be a bit longer because of roadworks on Blackheath). 15-20 minutes' walk from both.

    Pubs: Welling's club bar is open from noon and is showing the Sunderland v Charlton match on the telly, if that floats your boat. The Guy, Earl of Warwick pub is okay and next door; the Door Hinge micropub over the road, which was the first in London, is very old-school and not as brilliantly welcoming as the later ones but well worth a trip if you're into your ales and pubs. There's also a Spoons, the New Cross Turnpike, with a roof terrace (!) and USB sockets for phone chargers.

    The Kentish Belle, next to Bexleyheath station, is a brilliant micropub and definitely worth a visit.
    https://www.thekentishbelle.co.uk/

    And Eltham's famous and also brilliant Long Pond micropub (near Eltham station) is a short-ish ride away on the B16 bus - perhaps one for the trip home.

    Bonus micropub crawl: Beer nerds might like to try a mini-micropub crawl on the way. I've even knocked up a map.

    Instead of going to Welling/Bexleyheath, get off at Sidcup (zone 5, trains from London Bridge/Lewisham).
    Near Sidcup station, you'll find the Hackney Carriage - The Hackney Carriage
    Get a Woolwich-bound 51 bus to The Oval (not that one), where you'll find The Hangar, which only opened a couple of months back.
    - Hangar Micro Pub | Sidcup | Real Ale
    Walk up Wellington Avenue (or take the 51 one stop), cross Blackfen Road, walk past the cruddy George Staples/Woodman and you'll get to the Broken Drum. This is a bit more old-school with the emphasis on the beer and a friendly guv'nor (set up in an old nail bar).
    - The Broken Drum
    Back on the 51 again, jump off in the centre of Welling, and you'll be 5-10 minutes' walk from the Door Hinge and Welling's ground.

    welling.jpg
     
  2. baleboy_93

    baleboy_93 Well-Known Member

    If anyone can’t make the game, I am attempting to do a live radio stream on Mixlr and then every game going forward if it goes well
     
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  3. Taper

    Taper Well-Known Member

    Most importantly, do Welling allow dogs?
     
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  4. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all those tips Darryl. I much prefer micropubs and small freehouses to corporate pubchains. I did the Door Hinge when we played Erith & Belvedere in pre-season a couple of years back, although I suspect it will be extremely packed on Saturday. Might try the Kentish Belle pre-match then do the crawl to Sidcup in reverse order on the way home.

    Just double checked the train services. Half hourly from Denmark Hill (16 & 46 past the hour, journey time to Welling 25 mins) also calling at Peckham Rye, Nunhead, Lewisham. Four trains an hour from London Bridge (journey times 25-28 minutes), two of which go fast to Lewisham, the other two calling at New Cross and St John's. All these searches are specific to Saturday 4th August and factor in any planned alterations to the standard timetable.
     
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  5. darryl

    darryl this wasn't supposed to happen

    Pleasure. Shame the Dartford match is on a weeknight because you could do a micropub crawl heading there too - Bird & Barrel (Barnehurst), Penny Farthing (Crayford), Dartford Jug (only just opened). Plus there's a second one in Dartford applying for planning, so another might be open by then.

    If you're really keen/thirsty, you could stretch the reverse crawl on the way home once you've done the Hackney Carriage: 51/233 from Sidcup station to Church Road for the Hopper's Hut (The Hopper's Hut Micropub Sidcup), then a 233 to Swanley High Street for the Cotton Mill (The Cotton MIll MIcropub -SWANLEY-), which has a little beer garden and is handy for Swanley station (zone 8 (eight)). Popped in the Cotton Mill on the way back from Maidstone, it was very nice.

    (for all this, I'll probably be in the Welling clubhouse or the Bull on Shooters Hill pre-match watching Sunderland v Charlton...)
     
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  6. Jimbob73

    Jimbob73 The Wanley Road Massive

    Can't wait, I'll be driving. Looks like there is plenty of street parking near by.
     
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  7. Dirty South

    Dirty South Active Member

    Know what you mean about the Door Hinge, Darryl. Ray isn't exactly a "people person". But it is so very close to the ground - and has nice beer.
     
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  8. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    First match taking photos since the playoff final. My god, time has flown by! All this talk of pub crawls is making me jealous, mind.
     
  9. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Ooh, that's just down the road from me! Went there to watch Edgar Davids play for Barnet. He got sent off :D

    Might pop along if I can manufacture some free time :)

    <edit: actually, might not have been Davids that got sent off, that might have been another match. Someone definitely did get sent off though, as I remember the female ref getting the predictable abuse :( >
     
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  10. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    It's really annoying that Dartford is on a Tuesday especially as we visit GTFC three days earlier on the Saturday, the one fixture I'm not interested in attending. And Chelmsford away on a Monday is annoying too; great town for pubs and the ground is a hike from the station, would be much better on a Saturday.

    I think three different pubs after the match will be enough. I prefer to linger in the one I like the most rather than tick as many as possible just for the sake of it, but thanks for flagging them up for future reference.
     
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  11. Cyclodunc

    Cyclodunc Where's the slam tent, mate?

    I saw Davids play for Barnet twice. Sent off both times.
    I went to see them play at Burton Albion too. He wasn't there as he only went to games played in or close to London, apparently.
     
  12. Jimbob73

    Jimbob73 The Wanley Road Massive

    I saw Davids play for Palace, he was complete toilet!
     
  13. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Definitely not South London's most illustrious footballing Edgar.
     
  14. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I can't make this one, but if anyone could take some snaps for Buzz I'd be very much obliged...
     
  15. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    I just looked at that without my glasses and misread it as "Do Welling allow drugs?"

    If there's nothing explicit on their website probably best to ask them on Twitter if you use that. I recall Ian from Edenbridge was once refused entry to the Metropolitan Police ground with his dog, and to add insult to injury the unwelcome pet was a failed Police sniffer dog.
     
  16. alleycatfilms

    alleycatfilms New Member

    Going to be 30degrees. Any pubs with big gardens to enjoy the sun?
     
  17. XV Brigada

    XV Brigada Member

    As a local, I personally wouldn't bother with the guy earl of warwick, pretty expensive for what it is with very limited choice but it does have space to drink out the front and the back. The wetherspoons is big and should be relatively spacious at that time, tends to have a good range of beers on and the roof terrace is pretty good in the nice weather.

    Club house is decent but again can be a wee bit hit and miss with the beer, will be busy as lots of welling follow charlton too.

    For those talking about the sidcup crawl I highly recommend the hoppers hut, the hackney carriage is good as well but the hoppers edges it and tends to have a wider selection of beers, most likely will be heading there post-game.
     
  18. darryl

    darryl this wasn't supposed to happen

    When was the last time Dulwich and Welling played a competitive match? Have they ever? The Wings only became a senior team in the 1970s and I always remember them being a Southern League side.
     
  19. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    There have been a number of meetings in the London Senior Cup, notably the 1992 Final when they beat us at Bromley. I think the most recent one was a semi-final win at Park View Road in 1999/2000.

    We also lost at their place in the FA Cup in 1996/7.

    Welling have never been an Isthmian League club therefore we've never met them in a league match before.
     
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  20. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    We have met them at other levels as well. I remember watching a youth team game there many years ago. Steve Finnan played for Welling that day. That suggests suggests we were probably both in the Southern Suburban League for a while.

    It was probably around the time Marlon King was the second best striker in out youth team as that team were well worth watching and I didn't watch many away youth games during my years in London. Alternatively I might just have been groundhopping.
     
  21. blueheaven

    blueheaven Well-Known Member

    Anyone know what the food options are like at the ground?
     
  22. sleaterkinney

    sleaterkinney Well-Known Member

    Looking forward to this, over two weeks without football.
     
  23. Jimbob73

    Jimbob73 The Wanley Road Massive

    BTW anyone into vinyl (not the kinky kind) there is a good record store just down the road on 132 Welling High Street, Cruisin Records
     
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  24. Jules P

    Jules P #noprestonnoparty

    Interested to hear anyone's thoughts on starting XI. I'm assuming the team for Welling will be markedly different to the team that starts in say one month, given we've still got some uncertainties over injuries, and also trialists that are maybe to sign.
     
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  25. RabbleLevi

    RabbleLevi Member

    GK - Preston (doesn’t matter, we have two of the best)
    CB’s - Magnus (middle), Chambers (left), Pappoe/Quade (right, not sure whom is stronger)
    RWB - Alex Cook (looks physically powerful)
    LWB - Green (who else?)
    CDM - Kargbo, Carew (will need to do a lot of work closing down/ playing from deep positions)
    CAM - Byron (haven’t had a player like him since Oz, big statement, I know)
    Right ST - Nyren (with Cook at RWB Nyren can cause more havoc up top)
    Left ST - Jay May (Giroud-esque, makes space for others around him, gets himself marked and can hold the ball up, just what the rest of the team needs)

    Formation: 5-2-1-2 (we played this in the latter half of the 2016/17 season, blew a couple of conference sides away)

    Subs - Tangara, Quade/Pappoe, Onuvwigun, Ming, Ferguson, Dipo, Tomlin

    Plenty of pace and skill on the bench, only concern are midfield options with Onuvwigun only able to step in.
     
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  26. Noss

    Noss Well-Known Member

    Has Kargbo re-signed?
     
  27. bkbk

    bkbk Well-Known Member

    There are still a few names that haven't been officially confirmed by the club, but indicators suggest they will/have signed on:

    Walter Figueira
    Greg Cundle

    Kargbo and Abrahams are two others who haven't been confirmed as such.

    I might be missing one or two.
     
  28. bkbk

    bkbk Well-Known Member

    I am bloody giddy for the season. Roll on Saturday.
     
  29. RabbleLevi

    RabbleLevi Member

    If Kargbo doesn’t re-sign we will be very short in central midfield options...
     
  30. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Pappoe and May were both missing injured at Maidstone, and Chambers limped off early. Cook played the final 20 minutes or so from the bench. Much may depend upon how fit these four are. If Chambers and Pappoe are both unavailable I reckon Gavin may source a new centre back from somewhere.

    All being well I would expect the XI to be:

    Edwards - Pappoe/Taylor, Akuonghae, Chambers - Cook, Ferguson, Carew, Lawrence, Green - Clunis + one of Tomlin, May or Figueira.

    I still think the squad needs another centre back.
     

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