Well done the BBC
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Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
and for staring with one mad eye? it's like the final of masterchef, only it's called masterfash instead innit....
You think ? or you hope ?
think......
The result of this is going to be interesting.
The only certainty is that UAF scored another spectacular own goal by having a nothing like peaceful enough protest which succeeded in making themselves look like the freedom oppressing idiots, and detracting from Griffin's mess. After this the BNP can play the victim card more successfully than ever before. Had there been no protesting and the guy was just left to hang himself then the outcome would have been much clearer, but as it stands once more the gulf of understanding between the two sides widens - both extremes will think they have won, when in reality most people will walk away from this even more disillusioned with the terrible state of British politics than they were when it started.
The only certainty is that UAF scored another spectacular own goal by having a nothing like peaceful enough protest which succeeded in making themselves look like the freedom oppressing idiots, and detracting from Griffin's mess. After this the BNP can play the victim card more successfully than ever before. Had there been no protesting and the guy was just left to hang himself then the outcome would have been much clearer, but as it stands once more the gulf of understanding between the two sides widens - both extremes will think they have won, when in reality most people will walk away from this even more disillusioned with the terrible state of British politics than they were when it started.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
he didn't call bonnie greer a black cunt.
that must be worth one point?!
that must be worth one point?!
What a cretin....
untethered
For industry & decency
That's the poorest definition of "neutral" I've seen in a while.
After tonight they'll be even less sure of the BNP, or speaking up for them out of pure national primetime ridicule.
It might surprise you to know that not every social gathering is a hand-picked BBC studio audience.
hiphop_lad
New Member
Jack Straw is some what of a joke. He had nothing to say other then take snips at Griffin due to his ridiculed self.
I'll take it that you can't then.
Yeah you being right bloody clever probably will......
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Hain's attempt to restart his career (again) backfires (again). Couldn't happen to a nicer fellar.
You're almost as shit at putting your point across as that one-eyed nutjob you're in love with.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
that's a nice coherent argument you've put across
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
They're not idiots, but they are freedom oppressing, and a protest designed to silence Mr Griffin was never going to be peaceful. That was a mob outside the BBC, and I don't want that bunch of self-appointed enforcers deciding who's allowed to speak and who isn't. UAF quote Mr Griffin on their website: "When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate." Looks like they've taken that odious man's odious view to heart.
And I imagine that this circus has done politics in general no end of harm.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
well fucking done bbc.great stuff, voice to the fash...fuck them, fuck their bollocks, fuck the idiots who vote for them........
I've said what I needed to say earlier in the thread Paulie.
I'm waiting for the list of "good points" that apparently Griffin made ?
Even one of them would do for starters...
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
So what clear point did he make? What did he say that people could home in on?
He didn't actually say very much.
untethered
For industry & decency
The programme was essentially a BNP special edition.
Various people asked Mr Griffin to explain his policies and positions in more detail, which he did in fairly predictable terms. Equally predictably those positions were discussed from fairly conventional viewpoints.
While Mr Griffin didn't come across as a particularly powerful speaker nor a sympathetic character there were no real surprises, no hard punches landed on either side. The overall impression given was simply that the BNP had arrived and their views now form part of the national debate.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Sadly, this sums it up. Mr Griffin was expecting a verbal kicking and took it well, although the mob hoping for a literal version was disappointed. For now. I knew how repellent Mr Griffin was, but it's the images of the masked, flare-waving mob that'll stay with me. Goodness help us when the new wave of speech police get into the halls of power.
Until then, we've got politicians who want to pose as anti-immigration but are welded to the EU. Expect more legal attacks on asylum seekers and any other poor sod Europe allows them to persecute.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
In some ways, I agree. All the hype made it into a BNP special edition.
But it was a special edition that Griffin seemed extraordinarily ill prepared for.
What struck me most was that the other people on the panel seemed to have prepared a bit. They were prepared to quote him on what he had personally said, and on what his party evinces. He struggled to respond to that other than to say that he'd been misquoted. And Dimbleby was quite good in asking him to elaborate on that. He floundered, and got red, and sweated, and laughed sychophantically with Bonnie Greer.
No-one came out of it particularly well with the possible exception of Dimbleby.
The other main party members had nothing of substance to say apart from a defensive position against protest votes. Griffin fucked up. Bonnie Greer was OK but completely fucking lost it on that Ice Age shit.
This Week immediately afterwards was far more entertaining and realistic.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Aside from anything, he looked a right cunt for giving it the 'my dad served and yours didn't' shite
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Nah - that was the only fucking point he completely scored.
Badger Kitten
oof
No, well, you wouldn't, would you.
At least, not in your persona on here.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
He looked like a clown fucking up. But he underplayed the pathos that could have won him sympathy. Fair play to Dimbleby, he wasn't given much of a chance for the 'poor me' angle.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I thought it came off as total crass ner-ner bollocks tbf
who gives a fuck about whose dad did what. He scored on the war dead attack. The dad stuff was playground
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Of course it's fucking crass, but it's Remembrance Day season, and he scored a point there. His only point.
No matter what you youngsters think, there's loads of people out here that fucking object to Jack Straw giving it large about WWII and the people who died in it from some kind of moral high ground, when his own moral high ground didn't bear a cursory examination.
Jack Straw was a complete fucking bellend on that programme.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
See the other thread for my opinions on how Straw behaved. Outdone by the liberals and the tories and all outdone by an arty type. Everytime he started waffling my eyelids grew heavy. He is a joke.
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