Weekly/Fortnightly Bin collections

[poster342002]

if you are already recycling all that youcan then bully for you - nobody should be penalised for that. Reason with the council for bigger bins.

Do you think most councils will listen and respond? Especially with the drive across the country towards smaller bins?

 

[WouldBe]

I think you'll find that peoples purchasing decisions are principally guided by issues of cost and affordability - not whether the items they're buying with thier limited sums of cash fall into the "right on" category.

At the supermarket I use there is a choice between pre packaged veg and loose. The loose stuff is cheaper than the veg clingfilmed to death in a plastic tray.

Buy the loose stuff. It's cheaper and has less waste.

 

[poster342002]

Like bollocks they are. Or Iceland would have less sales of chicken nuggets and beer and far more of dried beans and other generic staples.

It's all the fault of those ignorant, lazy proles who just aren't buying what they should to be. Won't they ever listen to the voices of their betters-and-wisers?

 

[WouldBe]

Do you think most councils will listen and respond? Especially with the drive across the country towards smaller bins?

There isn't a general drive towards smaller bins.

I have the same wheelie bin I had when there were weekly collections. I now also have a same sized green wheelie bin for garden waste and cardboard and have a blue box for paper, glass and cans. The amount of rubbish storage has gone up not down.

 

[tarannau]

Do you think most councils will listen and respond? Especially with the drive across the country towards smaller bins?

Hey - why don't you ask them before thinking the worst. You may even get a few more other types of bin in a bid to boost your recycling.

i live in a communal flat as well, probably just round the corner from you. Lambeth, for all their flaws, have been pretty good with recycling

 

[tarannau]

Dp

 

[pogofish]

Forghtnightly collection has been a total shambles here. For both general waste & recycling. For a start, the main contract recycler was sacked before the scheme started so virtually all recycling has gone to landfill for the last 2 years & collections of both sorts are often missed, resulting in a knock-on which usually means you won't see another collection for 4, 6 or even 8 weeks, which last summer meant the bins were pretty rank!

 

[tarannau]

It's all the fault of those ignorant, lazy proles who just aren't buying what they should to be. Won't they ever listen to the voices of their betters-and-wisers?

Ah, here we go again. The emotive hyperbole and the 'prolier than you' stance- where have I said anything which implied that. Mocked your silly assertion that purchasing decisions are primarily driven by price and affordability perhaps. I note, again, that you avoided dealing with eminently sensible posts like WouldBe's that blew a hole in your defective reasoning. It's easier to sneer and act the miserable bastard isn't it?

Do proles only drink beer and eat nuggets then? Dappy stereotyping twat...

 

[gentlegreen]

This whole issue is ridiculous. In Bristol we have fortnightly rubbish collections, fortnightly recycling collections and weekly food waste collections

Actually isn't it even better than that ?

weekly compostables plus cardboard

weekly recyclables

fortnightly wheelie-bins (plastics)

 

[JTG]

Actually isn't it even better than that ?

weekly compostables plus cardboard

weekly recyclables

fortnightly wheelie-bins (plastics)

sorry, yeah, recycling's weekly innit?

flats get plastic bins now as well.

 

[Cobbles]

Unless you can't or won't get off your arse and sort the rubbish into the appropriate bin.

It's not my job. If the Council can't be arsed to do it why should I bother unless they make it worth my while?

 

[gentlegreen]

It's not my job. If the Council can't be arsed to do it why should I bother unless they make it worth my while?

Got any children ?
Or planning to have any ?
It's time to start caring about our little bit of the universe.

It's good for you.

 

[poster342002]

Got any children ?
Or planning to have any ?
It's time to start caring about our little bit of the universe.

It's good for you.

"won't someone think of the children!!"

Most people have more pressing and important things to think about than a miasma of bins. They just want to throw away their rubbish and have it collected with the minimum of invovlement or interaction. Which is quite reasonable in my opinion.

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[WouldBe]

Got any children ?
Or planning to have any ?
It's time to start caring about our little bit of the universe.

It's good for you.

We could have bundled him off to Italy the other week when the streets were knee deep in rubbish due to no landfill sites available to put it all in.

 

[WouldBe]

"won't someone think of the children!!"

Most people have more pressing and important things to think about than a miasma of bins. They just want to throw away their rubbish and have it collected with the minimum of invovlement or interaction. Which is quite reasonable in my opinion.

Perhaps supermarkets should act the same way. You walk in with a trolley and they just chuck stuff at you wether you want it or not then have to pay for it all at the tills.

 

[poster342002]

Perhaps supermarkets should act the same way. You walk in with a trolley and they just chuck stuff at you wether you want it or not then have to pay for it all at the tills.

The analogy isn't quite correct: it's more like paying for your items then being told you've got to pay for them again.

 

[tarannau]

"won't someone think of the children!!"

Most people have more pressing and important things to think about than a miasma of bins. They just want to throw away their rubbish and have it collected with the minimum of invovlement or interaction. Which is quite reasonable in my opinion.

What important things? Like moaning continuously on bulletin boards about how miserable life is you mean? Pah!



There are three types of waste disposal in Lambeth from what I can see - two which apply to us: recyclable waste and general rubbish. It's not exactly a hardship is it - you'd have to be some kind of pernickity selfish fuckbag to regard it as more trouble than it's worth.

 

[tarannau]

The analogy isn't quite correct: it's more like paying for your items then being told you've got to pay for them again.

Why? Are you paying more for your rubbish collection again now?

Or is this another sign of the poster342002 miserability distortion field in action.

 

[WouldBe]

The analogy isn't quite correct: it's more like paying for your items then being told you've got to pay for them again.

No it's not cos no-ones charging twice for rubbish collection.

 

[poster342002]

There are three types of waste disposal in Lambeth from what I can see - two which apply to us: recyclable waste and general rubbish. It's not exactly a hardship is it - you'd have to be some kind of pernickity selfish fuckbag to regard it as more trouble than it's worth.

You keep on mentioning Lambeth, whilst I'm talking more generically.

For what it's worth, I think Lambeth have actually got quite a good system, recycling-wise - so long as it STAYS the way it is.

 

[tarannau]

But, by that measure, you're talking about the theoretical nonsense world of misery and alarming yourself - let's stick to what you know about then.

Are Lambeth charging you more money for collection? Are the 'bin-stasi' in your area. Are you getting smaller bins? If not, why do you keep on wittering authoratatively about the possibilities, as if they're certain to happen.

Have you any concrete reasons for your ridiculous, negative assertions on this thread. Or are you just fearing the worst, speculating miserably and wildly?

 

[poster342002]

Tarranau,

I'm really not going to take the bait, nomatter how hard you try. Whilst this may come as something of a rather unsettling disappointment to you, I hope you'll accept my most sincere apologies for not playing along.

However - I'll state, once again, that I'm talking more generically rather than about Lambeth.

 

[corporate whore]

If you live in a communally-shared building (as I do), those bins fill up a lot quicker than 4-6 weeks. They're usually brim-full by mid-week, in my experience. And yes, people within the building recycle their recyclables - and the main bins are STILL full by mid-week, most weeks.

This is a good point. I live in a block of 40+ flats, with communal bins on the ground floor which are full to overflowing in about 5 days. This is vastly different from having a wheelie bin outside yer house and fornightly collections would be a fucking travesty.

And yes, we've got weekly recycling collections, which are picked up form outside individual flats. Despite having no excuse for not recycling - and having the LA dangle £100 weekly prize for doing so - , from what I can see very few people bother with this.

UNless the reclycing is enforced, the rubbish is gonna stack up.

 

[tarannau]

Tarranau,

I'm really not going to take the bait, nomatter how hard you try. Whilst this may come as something of a rather unsettling disappointment to you, I hope you'll accept my most sincere apologies for not playing along.

However - I'll state, once again, that I'm talking more generically rather than about Lambeth.

Where are you talking about then?

It's not about taking my bait, it's adding some substance to the ridiculous claims that you keep making. Justify what you're saying with some real life examples, or you'll continue to come across as a fantasist with a miserabilst streak several fathoms wide.

I'm dealing with facts, you seem to be busy depressing yourself with a load of half-baked unsourced claims and absolute nonsense.

 

[TAE]

Actually isn't it even better than that ?

weekly compostables plus cardboard

weekly recyclables

fortnightly wheelie-bins (plastics)

That's very cool.

The idea of 2 bins emptied on alternate weeks mean it doesn't cost the council any more. If you had 2 bins emptied every week you would need twice as many bin lorries and binmen meaning more cost to the tax payer.

Is this about saving money or encouraging recycling ?

 

[Grandma Death]

It's not my job. If the Council can't be arsed to do it why should I bother unless they make it worth my while?

Cant be arsed-how long do you think recycling takes then? Hours? Days?

 

[Wookey]

It's not my job. If the Council can't be arsed to do it why should I bother unless they make it worth my while?

Because you bought the packaging and the food, you should be partly responsible for what happens to it all afterwards. That's everyone's responsibility whether you live up to it or not. You live in a society, not an island made for one.

It takes me about 15 minutes a week to recycle, hardly noticeable at all. I get a real thrill knowing that the crap which I bought and used and threw out is going to be used again, rather than filling up a hole to leech contaminants into the earth. It's my rubbish after all, not communal rubbish. It's my job to help if I don't want to be a lazy anti-social bugger.

You flush your loo, and don't expect the council to come and do it for you. You should do the same with the rest of your crap - dispose of it properly, according to the community system.

If you don't like that, other communities might do things differently for you?

Oh, and since I started recycling and noticing how much wasn't able to be recycled, I've been shopping a lot more carefully for products with less packaging, and I avoid plastics that can't go in the green box. Food goes on the garden, paper in the paper bag, and we fill about a quarter of a wheelie bin every week - so monthly collections of that would suit me fine.

 

[urbanrevolt]

Yes but as various other people have said this is about an attack on public service and an attack on jobs- nothing much beyond window dressing to do with the environemnt.

However, as the environment is very important and being used as an excuse we should demand envrironmental audit by the council with more sefvices under the users' control e.g. compost bins, puntive taxes on local businesses who use unnecessary packaging, free insulation, free or cheap public transport etc etc

 

[poster342002]

I get a real thrill knowing that the crap which I bought and used and threw out is going to be used again,

I'm afraid I could never get that excited and "thrilled" at the rather mundane act of throwing the rubbish out (recycled or not). To me it's just a perfunctory, ordinary chore. At most I get a sort of "ho, hum. Another one in the recycling bag" feeling.

If I ever found myself getting anywhere near thrilled as I dropped an old empty beer-can into my orange binliner, I think I'd be a bit worried.