Website design cost estimates?

[fractionMan]

Dreamweaver - website creation

Photoshop - better images

(Ilustrator - actually, maybe not.)

How could using Dreamweaver and Photoshop not help design and coding?

Because as buddy bradly says, they're just tools. If you have no design skills, it doesn't matter how good the tools are. You'll still end up with a crap design.

and dreamweaver is crap anyway

 

[untethered]

Dreamweaver - website creation

Photoshop - better images

(Ilustrator - actually, maybe not.)

How could using Dreamweaver and Photoshop not help design and coding?

Many, many people write sites by hand-coding the HTML and CSS (as well, of course, as the back end code).

Dreamweaver helps you code (if you don't already know how to do it) but it won't help you design.

I'm not going to knock Photoshop. If you're creating graphics, you need some kind of tool to do it. But you can do an awful lot with Xara and the Gimp.

 

[baldrick]

How could using Dreamweaver and Photoshop not help design and coding?

If you've not got the design talent, then Dreamweaver et al won't help you.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Does dreamweaver have anything for CSS etc. ?

I'm trying to work on my website skills and current trend is for CSS formatting, sod those table things, it's all divs and spans, dreamweaver doesn't seem to be all that useful for it.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

I only use dreamweaver for FTP. otherwise I have gone over to Topstyle. I am sure theres a better FTP out there...

Dreamweaver is SHITE for CSS

 

[Wintermute]

I haven't used CS3 but it's supposed to be pretty good for CSS support - layout templates, compatibility settings etc. MX is fucking rubbish though

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

hmmm... interesteing in still on mx and pshop 6

 

[rhod]

Regarding the "large" project - it might be worth having a loook at this article on the origins and development of MySpace's backend.

To attract users and keep them with a site that works reliably and efficiently, you are talking big bucks and devlopment expertise.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Wading in on the dreamweaver thing - I've only ever designed simple stuff, but I always hand code. Could never get my head around dreamweaver, even though I have it. Seems to me it unnecessarily complicates matters. But then I taught myself to design old skool

I'm itching to know what your concept is now

 

[kained&able]

crhis if your after a shop in a box have a look at actonic. They do good stuff and its not normally hard to find evaluation copies.

http://www.actinic.co.uk/index.shtml


dVE

 

[jodal]

Chris has told me his ideas and they are indeed very good.

 

[salem]

Zen-Cart (www.zen-cart.com) is a fantastic freeware ecommerce package and someone with a bit of IT knowledge could have a working store up and running in an hour or so. Installation is a case of upload files, enter your details and mysql database details and load products. Add on a nice template which you can purchase for fifty quid or so and your sorted.

It wouldn't be a 100% unique site but it'd work and who sees every site on the web anyway? Besides I've purchased from many, many sites which use the default zen-cart/oscommerce template.

The hard part is getting people to the site.

The key to a good ecommerce website is as much to do with having a good product/price/service than anything else. The principles that should be applied to any business. I've worked on wonderfully slick websites which have failed because the client simply thinks that's all that matters.

With regards the web 2.0 site, well as said how longs a piece of string and again it's not so much the technical side which is going to kill you but getting the millions of people required to register. And then if it's successful watching as Myspace come in and apply your idea to their own site and existing userbase.