"We will of course bear your application in mind for any similar roles in the near future."

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by Helen Back, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Jobseekers: has any employer EVER kept this promise?

    Employers / HR bods: Have you EVER really kept someone's CV on file and later thought "Hang on, you know who WOULD be perfect for this role...?"

    I know it's a way of letting people down gently but come on, employers, enough's enough. Don't make promises you have absolutely zero intention of keeping.
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  2. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    I’m not even sure under GDPR it’s even still legal to hang onto a CV once the role being applied for is gone.
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  3. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    At least that is better than "previous applicants need not re-apply" which sometimes would turn up in the sits vac pages ...
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  4. nogojones

    nogojones Well-Known Member

    Yes, I have.

    We interviewed for a post and there was a good candidate, but there was a more experienced other candidate so they didn't get it. We knew however that a more suitable position was coming up, so told them when it was going live and to make sure they re-submitted the same application (that was a PITA for them, but HR insisted on jumping through HR hoops).

    I was told the same thing by an employer a few years before, after my first proper interview (all my previous interviews were like "can you read and write?" Erm...yes " you can start on Monday then") I assumed they were just being polite and tying to let me down gently, so I never bothered applying again. However I met the recruiting manager a few years later and they turned out quite gutted that I didn't apply for the 2nd job as they had their hopes on me.

    So yea, it can happen, but I've never recruited anyone from CV, always application and interview
  5. "So you're saying there's a chance!"

    Sorry, movie quote there. Okay, well, that's sort of encouraging. Let's see how the rest of the thread goes to see how often it happens, though...
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  6. Argonia

    Argonia Happy go licky

    I have never heard from an employer in this context and I have applied for thousands of jobs.
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  7. smmudge

    smmudge Sissy that walk!

    I went for an interview about 5 months ago, didn't get the job and they recently emailed me saying the position had become vacant again and would I like to re-apply.

    But I've found a better job since then so I said no, fuck you, you had your chance and you blew it.
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  8. Thimble Queen

    Thimble Queen person of tinge

    It happened to me in my current job. I applied for my job but they had halted recruitment for a bit. Then when the job was live again I applied and got called to interview.

    My OH had a similar thing where he applied for a job didn't get to interview, then the company called him and created a job for him cos they wanted him do much.

    It can happen :)
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  9. Grump

    Grump Well-Known Member

    It does happen, especially when the preferred candidate drops out between being offered the post and actually starting. I have been involved in two cases like this. Advertising for and interviewing candidates is very expensive and if you can just offer the post to an existing applicant it makes sense. GDPR doesn't matter as long as the candidates agree to details bring retained.
  10. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    There’s still some kind of time element (in terms of being reasonable for a specific purpose) to keeping personal information though, even with that consent.
  11. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    So sweet a reply. :)
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  12. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    not sure i've ever had that (one organisation did send me a 'no thanks' then invite me for a second interview, but that was apparently an HR cock up more than anything else.)

    i have had a very lengthy spell of 'we haven't made a decision yet' meaning 'we have offered it to someone else and are waiting to see what happens before we either offer it to you or tell you to bugger off' once or twice.
  13. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie Well-Known Member

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  14. kabbes

    kabbes "A top 400 poster"

    So it’s not straightforward. The company has to receive explicit consent to holding the CV for a specific purpose and they have to take reasonable steps to review whether the personal data remains appropriate to hold over time. On top of that, of course, they have to take all the GDPR steps to firstly ensure that the data remains accurate (which would be a nightmare) and secondly ensure the security of that data with the threat of substantial fines if they lose it. On the whole, it really doesn’t seem worth the bother. Better just to tell unsuccessful candidates that their CV is to be destroyed but they look forward to hearing from them again in the future if another role becomes available that the candidate would like to apply for.
  15. Mr.Bishie

    Mr.Bishie Well-Known Member

    I suspect that’s what most employers holding cv’s would do tbf.
  16. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    I got my current job because the first person they gave it to accepted and then got offered the other job he'd applied for and took it.

    Where I work they have joint interviews for jobs and will choose someone but if other candidates were really good they go into the 'pool', if another department needs someone they look through the people in the pool first before opening the application process up, if there is someone suitable in the pool they get invited for a meeting and can get offered the job.
  17. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Don’t agree you on some of this - you’d hold on consent, they could deal with retention by saying “for x months from the point that the successful applicant passes probation or twelve months after we advertise a similar role whichever is the longest.”, accuracy with “If we reconsider you for any roles we will ask for an updated cv before your cv is screened” and yes they need to secure it - but every hr department has stuff they need to secure - payroll, etc.

  18. cheesethief

    cheesethief Well-Known Member

    Surely it's a lot more complicated than that, it depends on the industry sector, the type of role, the seniority level, whether it's permanent or contract, etc, etc.

    Sure it's going to be said a lot to mean "you're rubbish, never darken our door again, security has your photo on the front desk, they'll shoot on sight".

    But other times I expect there's a degree of sincerity, especially if you're in a specialist sector or have esoteric skills. When talent's hard to find, they'll want to keep the runners up on file. Whereas if it's shuffling papers in the corner of an average office they may be disinclined to bother.

    Personally I couldn't care less - turn me down once, you don't get a second chance. :thumbs:
  19. bellaozzydog

    bellaozzydog rolling turds in glitter

    They go on my ever increasing Job/networking/Contact spreadsheet and get a monthly call and email like everyone else:D which tells them I'm alive, and available for work
  20. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    Certainly specialist job agencies keep CVs on file, if they are any good, they'll ask for an updated one at least annually.

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