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chilango said:
utter nonsense.

you are being lied to.

...and your stupidity as demonstrated above is letting your leaders destroy both america and the rest of the world to line their pockets.

Your ignorance does more to fuel terrorism than anything else.

´ckin hell. :(

Kinda Dismissive......
It is an easy way to Not argue........
When you insult your opponent and dismiss their argument as stupid it is a tassid admission of loosing the argument........
 
See, how many times do you have to be smacked in the face befor you start to fight back?
How about if I Was your neighbor and I shoot your children in your house and then burn the house down.
Then, after, I just smile at you while raking my yard..
Are you going to fight back?

well?

Oh and the "police" being the UN say they are going to do something but do not.

Well?

Ok - you live next door. I come home and you are raking your leaves. I see my burned down house and my dead children.

Oh yes, I would go ballistic, trust me. (Actually, no - I would just stare at the scene, unable to accept and wait until someone comes to help me).

I would run to my children and then ask you what had happened.

I would phone 911.

I would revise my list of people who would have done this to me (me because everything else that matters is gone).

I would try to find you, and when I did, I would turn you over to the police.

But then I'm a Canadian and we, as a nation, have taken a lot of abuse from you, my neighbour. Even Canadian patience will eventually wear out, then I guess we stop turning the other cheek and try a different approach with you.
 
Rentonite said:
Kinda Dismissive......
It is an easy way to Not argue........
When you insult your opponent and dismiss their argument as stupid it is a tassid admission of loosing the argument........

Agreed, with one exception. When their 'argument' is painfully stupid and the semi-literate willy raving chimp who concocted it is possibly the most insult deserving waste of DNA who ever walked on earth.
 
Crispy said:
Unless you can be 100% sure that you can be 100% succesful in wiping out 100% of the people who hate you, this is the worst thing you could do, because every person you kill or subjugate has 20 friends and family who will avenge his death.

And why do they hate you? It's because you got involved in the first place (us too). The middle east has been the plaything of the 'West' for the last 100 years. Continuing to prod at the anthill only makes the ants madder.

Ahh now you are understanding how big the problem is...
Most people arent thinking big enough...
and uh we didnt have to Killl ALL the GERMANS or Japanese did we?
 
spring-peeper said:
Ok - you live next door. I come home and you are raking your leaves. I see my burned down house and my dead children.

Oh yes, I would go ballistic, trust me. (Actually, no - I would just stare at the scene, unable to accept and wait until someone comes to help me).

I would run to my children and then ask you what had happened.

I would phone 911.

I would revise my list of people who would have done this to me (me because everything else that matters is gone).

I would try to find you, and when I did, I would turn you over to the police.

But then I'm a Canadian and we, as a nation, have taken a lot of abuse from you, my neighbour. Even Canadian patience will eventually wear out, then I guess we stop turning the other cheek and try a different approach with you.

gosh that sounds reasonable
BUTTTTTTT

There is no 911
There is No police
it is up to you to be responsible

See between nations there is no "rule of Law" like so many want to think there is.
the worlds nations are only governed by what others will acccept.
Thats it.
So

Your dodge doesnt work.

The Question still stands....

You answer is you would find an excuse to do nothing..????

Or would you fight the Agressor?

I understand that thinking this way is hard to do for Canadians but ya gotta start sometime.......:)
 
Crispy said:
And why do they hate you? It's because you got involved in the first place (us too). The middle east has been the plaything of the 'West' for the last 100 years. Continuing to prod at the anthill only makes the ants madder.
which ties in rather neatly with
Rentonite said:
See, how many times do you have to be smacked in the face befor you start to fight back?
not that Rentonite would see the connection...
 
Rentonite said:
Kinda Dismissive......
It is an easy way to Not argue........
When you insult your opponent and dismiss their argument as stupid it is a tassid admission of loosing the argument........

Fine.

I´ll go through your "argument" point by point then....
 
Rentonite said:
Ahh now you are understanding how big the problem is...
Most people arent thinking big enough...
and uh we didnt have to Killl ALL the GERMANS or Japanese did we?

No, but the nature of the threat was different. Those were wars against nation states, with leaders that could be decapitated and power structures that could be dismantled. This mess we've got ourselves into now is different. There's no clear line between civilians and soldiers. Any angry young man can become a soldier and there are no chains of command, only webs. It's not an enemy you can ever 100% defeat. The only way to stop the war is to remove the reasons for it, namely the west's interference in the middle east. It will take time and it will take sacrifice, but it this only route to an end that doesn't involve genocide.

And, proportionally, your next-door neighbour did not burn down your house and kill your entire family. He caused your wife a serious flesh wound. I mean no disrespect to anybody who has died, but the threat it smaller than the response has suggested.
 
rogue yam said:
This post proves your utter worthlessness. The United States does not force Israel to do anything. "(F)ullstatehood" is completely undefined. AQ has their own agenda. Your fantasy about "balls" and what's "public" is perfectly juvenile. You can't know this, but you are a joke.
do you think you'll be able to make sensible posts without the addition of a prepubescent tourette's sufferer's repertoire of insults, when you finally grow up, you pathetic little boy? :rolleyes:

for the more intelligent rest of you:
1.The USA is the world's most powerful country - EASILY.
2. 20% of Israeli GDP comes from US aid - directly.
3. ANY economy, anywhere in the world, large or small, agrarian or industrial, which took a 20% year-on-year hit would immediately collapse into prolonged and severe recession.
4. Israel knows this.
5. so does the USA
6. the whole reason why this threat has NOT been used by any US Prez, is because the Jewish lobby in the US is one of the most powerful there is, as directed by AIPAC and the UJA. It is CERTAINLY much, much more powerful than any arab one.
7. This is because american jewry are, and always have been, politically driven and very well organised.
8. they - in general, and taken as a whole - have also become affluent over time.
9. They used to be - in general - organised around a variety of liberal-left causes. Now their main issue is Israel.
10. Any politician who take a hardline pro-palestine stance would prolly see votes melting away, dependent on where he was standing.
11. No US Prez has ever gone down that route.
Now, is all of this mexplained in simplistic enough terms for your tiny brain, yammie?
and 'Full statehood' is perfectly obvious in meaning to anyone with a brain greater than that of the average goldfish - so I'll spell it out for you;
It means internationally recognised terrain, borders, status at UN, constitutional arrangements, recognition by the international community etc.
Y'know, like England, France, ireland etc.
Now is THAT simple enough for you, my moronic little amigo?
and 'public' - as you seem to be having difficulties with that word - means SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE AND BE AWARE OF!!
Finally - as is also pitifully obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature; Until this latest war, the single biggest thing that impelled disaffected young arabs - whom I know a lot about and you know zero - into al-Q's arms, was resentment over Israel, a resentment shared by virtually all arabs and muslims.
No yammie - you are the pig-ignorant joke. :rolleyes:
and I can GUARANTEE a heavy majority of all U75 posters would agree with me.
 
Rentonite said:
gosh that sounds reasonable
BUTTTTTTT

There is no 911
There is No police
it is up to you to be responsible

See between nations there is no "rule of Law" like so many want to think there is.
the worlds nations are only governed by what others will acccept.
Thats it.
So


Your dodge doesnt work.

The Question still stands....

You answer is you would find an excuse to do nothing..????

Or would you fight the Agressor?

I understand that thinking this way is hard to do for Canadians but ya gotta start sometime.......:)

hmmm - I thought that you had mentioned police in the initial scenerio. You said they would be ineffective. I'm not disputing your pov on this.

But, it was you who decided to make it more personal - an attempt to simplify and make the thing more emotional.

I'm not dodging, I'm playing along.

You and me, we live in somewhat similar countries. I told you what I would do if I came home to your scenerio. Now you, how would you react? Your home, your street.

edit: just read the part about me not being able to fight because it is unCanadian? Thats really funny - thanks for bringing a smile to my face.
 
Rentonite said:
Ahh now you are understanding how big the problem is...
Most people arent thinking big enough...
and uh we didnt have to Killl ALL the GERMANS or Japanese did we?
for the UMPTEENTH FUCKING TIME; This situation is NOT analogues to WW2. It springs from the political instability of the m/east, the rotten regimes there, the resentment of the underclasses, phenomenal USG cackhandedness in responding to that, and Israel.
Ask ANY middle easterner.
and I seem to recall that the US's decision was to stay well out of European problems, unti Japan rather forced its' hand, on December 7th 1941
 
Damn PC crashed whilst I was wading through Rentonites "argument".

Anyway Rentonite the jist is....

can you tell the difference between Iraq and Al Qaeda?

I´ll give you a clue:

One was a secular national socialist regime armed by the CIA which hated and feared Islamic fundamentalism.

The other are a brand of Islamic fundamentalists armed by the CIA.

So which attacked you?
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
This is the kind of thing that annoys me about GWB. He has, excuse the expression, "banana republic-ized" the language. Everything is "Homeland" this and "People's.. " that. All our government offices sound like the names the Soviets gave their offices during the cold war.
Funny you should say that. I had to travel to the US last year, visiting Chicago, Houston and Denver. The power-mad mirror-shade security goons, particularly in Houston, reminded me strikingly of Eastern Bloc goons.
 
spring-peeper said:
hmmm - I thought that you had mentioned police in the initial scenerio. You said they would be ineffective. I'm not disputing your pov on this.

But, it was you who decided to make it more personal - an attempt to simplify and make the thing more emotional.

I'm not dodging, I'm playing along.

You and me, we live in somewhat similar countries. I told you what I would do if I came home to your scenerio. Now you, how would you react? Your home, your street.

edit: just read the part about me not being able to fight because it is unCanadian? Thats really funny - thanks for bringing a smile to my face.

Exellent Spring We are finally getting somewhere! :)
So, It is easier to understand the interactions when ya clear away the noise.

Equating the relations between nations and peoples can be easily done if you shrink it down to the "personal neighbors" sceanario.

The World had become quite small and it is easy to forget that.
They are not that far away and the oceans no longer protect us as they once did.

These people are some of the most primitive thinking folks left on earth.
and unfortunatly we (thats All of us) are going to have to educate them.
the simple situation is,to quote a great american film,

"Whut We avv here is Failure to co municate, some men you cannot reach."

It is obvious that "sending messages" are pointless.
We must eliminate those that would eliminate us.

It is interesting that those in Iran are holding the Nation of Denmark responsible for something their citizens did....(draw a cartoon)
So
Should not the same thing hold true in reverse?
Why cant We hold the nations of Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and all the rest responsible for what their citizens did?

But we dont think that way.........THAT is what they are counting on.
 
Rentonite said:
These people are some of the most primitive thinking folks left on earth.
and unfortunatly we (thats All of us) are going to have to educate them.
the simple situation is,to quote a great american film,

"Whut We avv here is Failure to co municate, some men you cannot reach."

It is obvious that "sending messages" are pointless.
We must eliminate those that would eliminate us.
.

Fuckin ignorant racist.

Please come to latin america one day and talk like this....
 
Bernie Gunther said:
Funny you should say that. I had to travel to the US last year, visiting Chicago, Houston and Denver. The power-mad mirror-shade security goons, particularly in Houston, reminded me strikingly of Eastern Bloc goons.

I have to fly for the first time since 9/11 next month. I'm not looking forward to it.

I know a state senator who refers to Bush either as "El Presidente" or "Our Beloved Maximum Leader", but only in her own home. :D
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
I have to fly for the first time since 9/11 next month. I'm not looking forward to it.

I know a state senator who refers to Bush either as "El Presidente" or "Our Beloved Maximum Leader", but only in her own home. :D

I hope that it's not a fear of something bad happening, because your fears are unfounded. US airspace is very safe. It really is.
 
spring-peeper said:
I hope that it's not a fear of something bad happening, because your fears are unfounded. US airspace is very safe. It really is.

No, its more discomfort at having to go through security. I look like a dodgy character. Ok, so I am a dodgy character. If there is a 1% chance of being hassled, I'm likely to be the one. ;)
 
kage said:
Agreed, with one exception. When their 'argument' is painfully stupid and the semi-literate willy raving chimp who concocted it is possibly the most insult deserving waste of DNA who ever walked on earth.
:D :D
<applauds kage>
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
No, its more discomfort at having to go through security. I look like a dodgy character. Ok, so I am a dodgy character. ;)

:D

Just don't run if you are late for your plane then. A friend of mine, white male, did that. Airport security was not amused. He promised to shave next time :o

Oh yes, wear slip-off shoes and stay away from anyone doing drugs. Those drug swabs are REALLY sensitive.

I also read the other day how security made a woman (flight-attendent) remove her bra before letting her go through the scanning thing. So skip underwire bras. ;)
 
Rentonite said:
Kinda Dismissive......
It is an easy way to Not argue........
When you insult your opponent and dismiss their argument as stupid it is a tassid admission of loosing the argument........
yes, but when they are too stupid to spell 'tacit' or 'losing' correctly, then it's properly justified.
christ, with subservient, gullible cretins like you in the populace, no wonder your leaders get away with so much. :rolleyes:
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
No, its more discomfort at having to go through security. I look like a dodgy character. Ok, so I am a dodgy character. If there is a 1% chance of being hassled, I'm likely to be the one. ;)

When I flew out of Seattle in January 2005, there was no real security at the airport. Certainly nothing like what you'd get in Europe.

I wasn't even asked the 'did you pack these bags yourself' question.
 
Rentonite said:
These people are some of the most primitive thinking folks left on earth.
What's this racist shit?

Come to think of it, you're one of the primitive thinking folks left on earth, aren't you?
 
Taxi for rentboy

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Renty you get more and more laughable every day. :D
Are you tugging your cock when you type? You sound rather excited by all of this :rolleyes:
 
Bob_the_lost said:
Well you damned well didn't search for a thread on this, we've already decided that it's unlikely to be a US plot.

'we' did nothing of the sort, did 'we' :confused: ?

how many mosques do you know of that have been used as sectarian targets between shia and sunni over the last 100 years?
 
spring-peeper said:
:D

Just don't run if you are late for your plane then. A friend of mine, white male, did that. Airport security was not amused. He promised to shave next time :o

I won't run. And, I'll be sure to shave too. I just hope they don't search down there.

spring-peeper said:
Oh yes, wear slip-off shoes and stay away from anyone doing drugs. Those drug swabs are REALLY sensitive.

I knew about the slip-on thing. A couple of years ago my mother and I went to the St. Louis arch. They made my 72 yr. old mother who walks with a walker take off her shoes and roll up her pant legs.

spring-peeper said:
I also read the other day how security made a woman (flight-attendent) remove her bra before letting her go through the scanning thing. So skip underwire bras. ;)

Those infernal contraptions were no doubt invented by a man who hates women anyway.

Thanks for the advice. :)
 
Idris2002 said:
When I flew out of Seattle in January 2005, there was no real security at the airport. Certainly nothing like what you'd get in Europe.

I wasn't even asked the 'did you pack these bags yourself' question.

Its nice to know that airport security is lighter than the security you'd see at a Nine Inch Nails concert.
 
Rentonite said:
These people are some of the most primitive thinking folks left on earth.
and unfortunatly we (thats All of us) are going to have to educate them.
the simple situation is,to quote a great american film,

Someone has got to this long before me but I just have to ask... you what?!
 
Rentonite said:
The Iranians Blew up the big Mosque in Iraq today

The Iranians. The Shia Iranians blew up one of their own holiest sites. I see.

I think I can safely disregard anything else Rentonite has to say on the subject...:D
 
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