Was there an ice age?

[jæd]

I once saw a cool documentary (C4?) where they found a boot shape which was in the dimensions stated in the big book of those of Noah's little ship.

All tales are based on a bit of fact - perhaps Noah was the Howard Hughes of his generation

So Noah rescued all the animals in a giant boot...?

 

[gurrier]

Satellite pictures taken last summer of Mount Ararat in Turkey may reveal the final resting place of Noah's ark, according to Daniel McGivern, the businessman and Christian activist behind a planned summer 2004 expedition to investigate the site.

"We're telling people we're 98 percent sure," said McGivern, a member of the Hawaii Christian Coalition. "In one image we saw the beams, saw the wood. I'm convinced that the excavation of the object and the results of tests run on any collected samples will prove that it is Noah's ark. "

People who are 98% convinced that they have found Noah's ark on the basis of patterns of shade in sattelite imagery don't take too much convincing. I'd say that the discovery of an ant or a twig in the general vicinity would be sufficient to make up the last 2% of the proof.

 

[spring-peeper]

Can't say I remember one been mentioned. Just wondering how far an object would have been moved by the glacier over such a long period of time.

As Mt Ararat is volcanic when did it last erupt? Can't see some ancient timber surviving the heat of lava.

If you could provide me with a date for the Noah flood, I'll try to figure it out for you.

Same with the volcano - a date would be useful.

 

[WouldBe]

As the ice cap on Mt Ararat starts at ~14,000 ft where the fuck did all the water go.

 

[WouldBe]

If you could provide me with a date for the Noah flood, I'll try to figure it out for you.

Same with the volcano - a date would be useful.

No idea about the last volcanic eruption.

Link Noah's flood was 20,000 - 50,000 years ago.

Edit:

Just found this

Ararat has not erupted in historic time. The most recent eruption was probably in the last 10,000 years.

 

[spring-peeper]

I found this link.

The article creates a historic timeline of the Mount Ararbat "anomaly", starting with a 275 BC writings by Berossus, a Babylonian historian.

 

[chooch]

or google bowder stone and try to explain how some giant flood picked that up and moved it from where it came from to where it is,:

Well-drilled watervoles?
Erratics are one of my favourite things.

 

[jonH]

The Wikipedia is great, Erratics clinch it for me?????? so where's all the water gone? Down the plug hole? I'll never believe what I hear in the bath again.

 

[editor]

so where's all the water gone? .

How about in those great big wet things seen all over the world?

I believe they're called 'oceans'.

 

[spacemonkey]

From a link to a creationists site from another thread. How did Noah gather the animals?

Apparently Noah didn't have to go round collecting all the animals. All god did was instill a 'sense of fear' into the animals and they all herded towards his big boat.

What about the giant oceans preventing a mass migration i hear you cry?!?

Very likely, all of these areas were possibly connected as a single continent, with no mountain or ocean barriers to hinder migration

Literally defying all geological evidence ever.

Fucking joke!

 

[gurrier]

The Wikipedia is great, Erratics clinch it for me?????? so where's all the water gone? Down the plug hole? I'll never believe what I hear in the bath again.

Ah, the famous 'argument from the belief that everybody else is as much of a moron as me'. Just because you have trouble getting your head around the concept of glaciers receding when ice ages end and the climate heats up and the newly liquified water obeying the laws of gravity doesn't mean you shouldn't be embarrassed about it.

In other news, two ice cubes mysteriously vanished from my Gin and Tonic yesterday evening. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is presumed responsible.

(consider keeping such revelations to yourself)

 

[J77]

So Noah rescued all the animals in a giant boot...?

Yep - his missus had one. They lived in it prior to the flood...

 

[spring-peeper]

Yep - his missus had one. They lived in it prior to the flood...

I thought it was a shoe

 

[jæd]

I thought it was a shoe

Just looked it up. In the Koran it says it was a shoe, and the Bible say it was a boot. Its why the Turks won't let anyone up there...

 

[lizzieloo]

 

[spring-peeper]

Just looked it up. In the Koran it says it was a shoe, and the Bible say it was a boot. Its why the Turks won't let anyone up there...

There was an old lady who lived in a shoe
She had so many children that she didn't know what to do

boot doesn't even rhyme with do.



* end of thread derail *

 

[J77]

I rest my case:

 

[spring-peeper]

I guess I walked into that one, didn't I?

 

[free spirit]

Originally Posted by free spirit
yeah but didn't the bible say it flooded the entire world... (or did i imagine that)

ps - i'll happily accept there was a big flood as described, and a guy called noah had somehow had the foresight to build a boat and take a pair of each of his livestock on the boat with him

RANT ALERT

Yeah, and he cocked up and missed one of the unicorns, that's why they're all dead.

He got two ants? Two cockroaches? Two of every type of life! He must have used the space ship from independance day to squeeze them all onboard. And good job he went over to pick up the Dodos as well, a lot of forethought that man.

*wanders off ranting*
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er think you've got a different definition of livestock to me mate, my personal take on the story for what it's worth is that it's probably based partially on a true story, but got embelished over time. If you were a farmer & had a boat and there was a massive flood, you'd want to save your family and your livestock, but wouldn't be able to take all your livestock with you on your boat, so you'd take 2 of each (say 2 hens, 2 goats etc.) so that you could then breed these animals afterwards to restock. This would obviously be the kind of story that would get past down from generation to generation, being embelished as it went along, passing into folk legend, and then eventually being written down by some religous guy who'd obviously attribute all this to being a work of god.

 

[jonH]

There have been glacial periods but as for a "snowball earth" I don't think it's been proven. There has been a few mentions of floods, were these to do with gaciation or other events such as tsunamis. The term Ice Age is still problematic as is Great Flood.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

.......nandeyanen?

what do you mean by snowball eath? ice ages have masses of geological evidence supporting them as well as evidence showing climactic change due to the fosil record

and what do you mean "here has been a few mentions of floods" when where? are we talking about various water based events that happen through history? possibly even the vising ocean cause by the receding ice caps during the end of the ice age?


"he term Ice Age is still problematic as is Great Flood"

no ..... in the same way you can term an elephat and a mouse as being the same creatur because the are both grey mammals

ice ages are .... well as close to being absolute fact as you can get with out finding a glacier front on your door step where as a great flood is only supported by flimsy bits and pieces mostly shown as "evidence" by people out to try and give biblical accounts some sort of plausability