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War of words over Morrissey story

I won't be boycotting, and I'm sure the gigs will be great and that I'll enjoy them hugely, in spite of everything .

Just finding the whole current business very depressing right now, is all ... :confused: :(
 
Regardless of the exact transcripts of this interview, Morrissey comes across like a right burk - a kind of Phil Collinsesque little Englander with a silly byline in uninformed comments. Love the comment about not hearing English accents in Knightsbridge, in fecking Knightsbridge of all places. Here's a tip Moz (a) You're talking toss, Knightsbridge ain't exactly Benetton country and b) You're only hearing all those accents around there because those monied Brits are keen on hiring all those Eastern European operes and house staff.

Fuck off back to the US Morrissey. And take your floral shirts and miserable 'I'm not racist, but...' attitude with you. Daft cunt
 
he may well be talking toss about not hearing english accents in knightsbridge, but that doesn't make him a racist. none of what he says in the interview does.
 
his use of the phrase 'devious, truculent and unreliable.' is almost amusing, the ol' hypocrite.

Can't imagine why, but some of his comments just ring...untrue
 
Eh? Where that come from.

I don't know if Morrissey is a racist or not without listening to the transcript, but I don't really care enough either way.

He's so woefully misoinformed and clearly willing to make duff statements that it's difficult to take Mozza's words as credible. He sounds like one of those blokes who really would believe himself when he came out with the obligatory get out 'I'm not a racist, but...' . And then he'd go one to talk a load of soft-brained discriminatory rabble-rousing shit about the decline of mystical British society and character, despite being the kind of hypocritical twazzock who emigrated elsewhere some time ago.

Surplus shithead.
 
tarannau said:
Eh? Where that come from.

I don't know if Morrissey is a racist or not without listening to the transcript, but I don't really care enough either way.
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oh come on, no one ever uses the phrase "i'm not racist, but..." about someone unless they're implying that someone *is* racist. cor, you're as bad as the NME ;)
 
But I keep reading that Morrissey keeps claiming exactly that, pointing to his anti-racist credientials like a small child harking back to his 50m swimming certificate.

Which doesn't, in any meaningful way, mitigate for the fact that he's come across like a right unpleasant, divisive simpleton in this whole affair.

These days Morrissey is just a crap version of Phil Collins with slightly better PR - an irrelevant old duffer prone to stupid comments . The whingeing tosser wouldn't even make the grade for a chocolate-based tv campaign featuring a drumming gorilla either.

(((((Mozza Fans))))))Their idol's turned into a bit of a prat, hasn't he?
 
dodgepot said:
he may well be talking toss about not hearing english accents in knightsbridge, but that doesn't make him a racist. none of what he says in the interview does.
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He thinks there are too many foreigners in England and wishes some of them would go away. How is that different to what UKIP and the BNP say?
 
tarannau said:
But I keep reading that Morrissey keeps claiming exactly that, pointing to his anti-racist credientials like a small child harking back to his 50m swimming certificate.

Which doesn't, in any meaningful way, mitigate for the fact that he's come across like a right unpleasant, divisive simpleton in this whole affair.

These days Morrissey is just a crap version of Phil Collins with slightly better PR - an irrelevant old duffer prone to stupid comments . The whingeing tosser wouldn't even make the grade for a chocolate-based tv campaign featuring a drumming gorilla either.

(((((Mozza Fans))))))Their idol's turned into a bit of a prat, hasn't he?
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The thing is though, the man lives in a bubble. He's right, Britain has changed a lot in the last 40 years, but I think that he, as the son of immigrants himself, totally romanticised his idea of 'Britishness' through his overt love of carry on films, coronation street etc...and this is a Britain that has disappeared. Personally, I find that a positive development but I can also understand why that makes some people sad. I don't think it's particularly racist to admit it, I just don't agree with that attitude myself.
 
tarannau said:
(((((Mozza Fans))))))Their idol's turned into a bit of a prat, hasn't he?
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He's always been a bit (lot?) of a prat, hasn't he? Still, he's made some cracking records over the years.

If anyone is thinking of boycotting his Roundhouse gigs, I'll have the tickets off you, ta.
 
Great, let's rush out to see an old plonker, the lyricist who lives in a bubble and takes his verbal cues from Carry On and Corrie, live and at his objectionable best on stage. He'll be reciting from the great big book of Alf Garnett next, or harking back to the good old day of George and Mildred

What a laughable irrelevancy he's becoming; a poster boy for the uninformed "I'm not racist, but Britain used to better without so many foreigners (diluting our national essence)' BNP-lite crowd. Of course, he's perfectly placed to comment and pontificate to us Brits, having lived up his own arse in LA for a good few years now.

Twat. I'd be tempted to egg him if I was at the new gigs...
 
goldenecitrone said:
He's right, Britain has changed a lot in the last 40 years, but I think that he, as the son of immigrants himself, totally romanticised his idea of 'Britishness' through his overt love of carry on films, coronation street etc...and this is a Britain that has disappeared....I don't think it's particularly racist to admit it
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no, nor do i. and morrissey says himself in the interview that he's "not saying (change caused by immigration) is a terrible thing...(but) a reality." he also says people should be allowed the freeedom to "go around the world and be anywhere" (although he does imply later on that there should be some sort of immigration controls, but doesn't say what) and agrees that immigration can enrich britain's identity. hardly the words of a send-them-all-back alf garnett type.
 
no, more like the words of a somewhat confused eejit. he's no dyed in the wool racist, and is no doubt perfectly genuine in his condemnation of racism, but that doesnt stop him making rather daft, 'soft racist' comments. he wouldn't be the only one.
 
belboid said:
no, more like the words of a somewhat confused eejit. he's no dyed in the wool racist, and is no doubt perfectly genuine in his condemnation of racism, but that doesnt stop him making rather daft, 'soft racist' comments. he wouldn't be the only one.
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As a pop singer he's a genius. As the voice of the people he's naive at best and misguided at worst. I'll still be singing along lustily at his gigs though. Ask me why and I'll spit in your eye. :)
 
tarannau said:
(((((Mozza Fans))))))Their idol's turned into a bit of a prat, hasn't he?
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He's certainly not an idol to me right now (see my post from last night). Maybe he always this much out of touch

I'm still going to his gigs though, and I will take as I find there. There's plenty in his back catalogue that I always have liked and will continue to like, I'm not going to suddenly start retrospectively not liking his best songs now.
 
tarannau said:
Great, let's rush out to see an old plonker, the lyricist who lives in a bubble and takes his verbal cues from Carry On and Corrie, live and at his objectionable best on stage. He'll be reciting from the great big book of Alf Garnett next, or harking back to the good old day of George and Mildred

What a laughable irrelevancy he's becoming; a poster boy for the uninformed "I'm not racist, but Britain used to better without so many foreigners (diluting our national essence)' BNP-lite crowd. Of course, he's perfectly placed to comment and pontificate to us Brits, having lived up his own arse in LA for a good few years now.

Twat. I'd be tempted to egg him if I was at the new gigs...
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Please don't assume that all or even most of his audience fall into the 'BNP lite' catagory. Quite insulting of you to be so sweeping -- I mean about his auideince, I agree with some of your criticisms of the man.
 
belboid said:
no, more like the words of a somewhat confused eejit. he's no dyed in the wool racist, and is no doubt perfectly genuine in his condemnation of racism, but that doesnt stop him making rather daft, 'soft racist' comments. he wouldn't be the only one.
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Missed this before. I reckon this comes close to it.

Doesn't stop his music/songs/performances being good IMO ...
 
indeed, i was reading that godlike genius Julian Copes response to the story on his site earlier, nodding along in total agreement with him, until an appaling last paragraph which was almost as cringeworthy as mozza. Wont stop me listening to him either - tho I may use it as an excuse not to pay for his last crappy album :)
 
Have to agree with that, i think i would have gone mad during the early thatcher/boys from the blackstuff period, etc without the NME at the time.
It was truly essential.

'It led the way by the quality of its writers - Paul Morley, Julie Burchill, Paul du Noyer, Charles Shaar Murray, Nick Kent, Ian Penman, Miles - who would write more words than the articles demanded, and whose views saved some of us, and who pulled us all away from the electrifying boredom of everything and anything that represented the industry. As a consequence the chanting believers of the NME could not bear to miss a single issue; the torrential fluency of its writers left almost no space between words, and the NME became a culture in itself, whereas Melody Maker or Sounds just didn't.'
 
can't find JC's blog, where it is?


'indeed, i was reading that godlike genius Julian Copes response to the story on his site earlier, nodding along in total agreement with him, until an appaling last paragraph which was almost as cringeworthy as mozza. Wont stop me listening to him either - tho I may use it as an excuse not to pay for his last crappy album'
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