Wall of Sound to shut Blair up Thurs 3rd April

[snadge]

If you don't have any anger or hatred toward Blair then this argument doesn't really apply to you, does it?

yes it does, hate doesn't come into it, it seems to be you that is injecting hate.

I think Blair is a snivelling toady but I don't hate him, I want to see him taken to task for his law breaking not allowed a platform to snivel on, massaging his narcissistic ego.

 

[Kizmet]

And my anger is intrinsic to finding someone to blame. So how can the issue be more than that?

Because from another point of view that would be called 'scapegoating'.

 

[Kizmet]

yes it does, hate doesn't come into it, it seems to be you that is injecting hate.

Whatever.

I think Blair is a snivelling toady but I don't hate him, I want to see him taken to task for his law breaking not allowed a platform to snivel on, massaging his narcissistic ego.

Yet others disagree enough to give him that platform. What do they know or don't they know that YOU do?

 

[citydreams]

Because from another point of view that would be called 'scapegoating'.

But then that point of view would be wrong. Scapegoating is when you use someone as an excuse for your own failures...
kind of like you using this thread for your failure to challenge Tony over the deaths of 1million, and rising, civilians.
How very fucking noble of you.
Can I go back to calling you a twat now?

 

[citydreams]

Yet others disagree enough to give him that platform. What do they know or don't they know that YOU do?

Who said they disagree? They may simply be using him to gain attention to their cause.

 

[Jonti]

and you are so far from the point it's laughable, go join the fucking jesuits if you want to psuedopreach to me then I can tell you to fuck off with pleasure.

Too late; I think Prem Rawat got there first

Aaanyway, seems that lot have managed to confuse wikipedia. theRegister mentions the matter...

One of the site’s leading administrators bears an extreme conflict of interest, but you can’t expose him from the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard. He created the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard.

This administrator, Jossi Fresco, is a longtime student of Prem Rawat - formerly Guru Maharaj Ji - the India-born spiritual leader who styled himself as the "Perfect Master" and fostered a worldwide religious movement encouraging followers to call him "Lord of the Universe."

more here folks!.

 

[Kizmet]

But then that point of view would be wrong. Scapegoating is when you use someone as an excuse for your own failures...
kind of like you using this thread for your failure to challenge Tony over the deaths of 1million, and rising, civilians.
How very fucking noble of you.
Can I go back to calling you a twat now?

Do what you like.

Scapegoating is not about excuses for your own failures at all. You're an idiot to think so.

 

[Kizmet]

Too late; I think Prem Rawat got there first

Aaanyway, seems that lot have managed to confuse wikipedia. theRegister mentions the matter...


more here folks!.

I thought we discussed your underlying racism elsewhere?

 

[Kizmet]

Who said they disagree? They may simply be using him to gain attention to their cause.

Rather than hitting him with a stick, you mean?

 

[citydreams]

Rather than hitting him with a stick, you mean?

I'd only hit him if he used the words "national intelligence"

 

[citydreams]

Scapegoating is not about excuses for your own failures at all. You're an idiot to think so.

Er, dictionary definition says it is:
1. One that is made to bear the blame of others.
2. Bible A live goat over whose head Aaron confessed all the sins of the children of Israel on the Day of Atonement. The goat, symbolically bearing their sins, was then sent into the wilderness.
tr.v. scape·goat·ed, scape·goat·ing, scape·goats
To make a scapegoat of.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=scapegoat

 

[snadge]

Whatever.

whatever? you fucking child, you introduced hate you pious cunt.

others disagree enough to give him that platform. What do they know or don't they know that YOU do?

what are you on about now? more egotistical wittering.


I'm done, it's like debating with a fool, you actually have nothing to add of substance.

 

[citydreams]

The WMD claim is what the majority hate him for, the lies.

Exactly. And I think that's just plain crazy for a number of reasons.

Firstly - let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Fuck me, he didn't lie about whether he liked his mum's cooking. He lied about starting a war. In our names.

And I can't believe you're taking advice from Christ. He's responsible for more deaths than Blair.

 

[citydreams]

Was that meant to be a point?

I didn't realise, sorry.

He noticed the mob.. he didn't notice you. That's how mobs work. That's why I think they're dangerous.

Depends who's in the mob.

I've seen enough to know that an out of contol mob is a dangerous thing. I was almost stampeded by a tube load of football supporters going for a riot.

But a group of committed individuals who are well reasoned and capable of self-restraint is a much grander thing.

He might not have noticed me personally. But then, maybe that's because there was only a few hundred people there instead of several thousand.

 

[Kizmet]

Er, dictionary definition says it is:
1. One that is made to bear the blame of others.

Exactly.

The blame of others.. not limited to 'your own failures'.

 

[Kizmet]

whatever? you fucking child, you introduced hate you pious cunt.

You deserve no more. Do your research.

what are you on about now? more egotistical wittering.

You understand little but you swear a lot.

Coincidence? I think not.

I'm done, it's like debating with a fool, you actually have nothing to add of substance.

I couldn't even remember your name.. that should tell you how much YOU added.

C'ya.

 

[Kizmet]

Depends who's in the mob.

I've seen enough to know that an out of contol mob is a dangerous thing. I was almost stampeded by a tube load of football supporters going for a riot.

Being Asian and living a) near Wembley and then b) in Tower Hamlets I will tell you that there is only one thing an out of control mob has in common with any other.

And that is anger.

But a group of committed individuals who are well reasoned and capable of self-restraint is a much grander thing.

This is not a mob.

And it is not organised by throwing in a couple of street parties.

 

[Kizmet]

Fuck me, he didn't lie about whether he liked his mum's cooking. He lied about starting a war. In our names.

You misunderstand the quote.... he was in a positon to lie about starting a war.. you may never be in position to lie about more than your mum's cooking.

And I can't believe you're taking advice from Christ. He's responsible for more deaths than Blair.

Good advice is good advice - wherever it comes from.

This is part of the problem, I feel. The tendency you seem to have to worry about the messenger more than the message.

 

[snadge]

You deserve no more. Do your research.



You understand little but you swear a lot.

Coincidence? I think not.



I couldn't even remember your name.. that should tell you how much YOU added.

C'ya.

I have done plenty of research mate, your ego seems to get in the way of debate.

whatever my reasons for supporting this demonstration, hate isn't one of them, as has explained by several attendees as well.

You seem to imply that everyone that attended was doing so through hate, this has been explained to you over and over again that it is not the case.

but then this isn't about blair is it to you, it's about you, again!

As I have already said get some help, the world does not revolve around you and thank fuck you are not in a position that it does.

 

[Kizmet]

I have done plenty of research mate, your ego seems to get in the way of debate.

whatever my reasons for supporting this demonstration, hate isn't one of them, as has explained by several attendees as well.

You seem to imply that everyone that attended was doing so through hate, this has been explained to you over and over again that it is not the case.

So.. somehow, with all your sterling research skills you managed to miss this:

You see.. while people are there to have a great time.. all's good.

It's when people start going to express hatred and anger that I start to get nervous.

no, we should never express hatred or anger as part of a group. God knows what might happen.

We were talking about anger and hatred... but that's cool... you just carry implying what I mean without actually bothering to read it.

but then this isn't about blair is it to you, it's about you, again!

As I have already said get some help, the world does not revolve around you and thank fuck you are not in a position that it does.

You keep saying this as though it actually means something... you are aware that it's gibberish, aren't you?