Walkie Talkie tower, Fenchurch St crackles into life

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by editor, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    Apostate. :mad:

    “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” 2 Peter 2:1-3.
  2. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

  3. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

  4. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Here's what the article said:
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  5. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    This is not a trivial problem.
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  6. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    OMG, remember this?


    Guess who the architect of the Vdara Hotel was?
    Rafael Vinoly, also architect of 20 Fenchurch Street :D
  7. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    It's amazing and facepalm all at once :D
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  8. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

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  9. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

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  10. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Apparently not - as long as they've already been paid, it's no longer their problem.
  11. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Not true. When buildings have defects after completion and nobody fesses up, the court cases to apportion blame are often very strongly contested, with all the consultants and contractors fighting their corners. If the fault is found to lie with the design, rather than the implementation, then the architect (or structural engineer or services engineer, or whoever was responsible for the incorrect design) can be liable for correcting the fault.
  12. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Thanks for that - how often does the architect have to put it right though? There was that stainless steel clad Disney building (in LA?) where some of the outside panels had to be sanded to stop it creating a hotspot, I only heard of that this morning.
  13. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    I was about to mention the same building. No idea who was found liable for that one. I also don't know how it works overseas.

    However, it's common these days for the contractor to be liable regardless, as many contracts are of the "design and build" type. This means that the chain of command goes client->contractor->architect. The architect is contracted by the builder to provide design services, but it is the contractor's responsibility to finalise the design and make sure that it is correct. This sort of contract is beneficial to clients, because a contractor will happily cut corners in the design to save money, whereas architects tend to insist on all their expensive niceties.

    In this case, however, the design flaw is so gross, no contractor could reasonably be expected to alter the design to fix it. I predict a complicated court case.
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  14. Boycey

    Boycey juvenile rave slut

    "evil genius builds giant parabolic death ray into city skyscraper, twice" :D

    i'm having a shit morning and this is really perking me up :D
  15. magneze

    magneze mnemonic beef

    :D Awesome
  16. _pH_

    _pH_ .

    Are novated agreements still common? I.e., client employs architect, architect designs the building to such a point that contractors can price up and submit a tender, successful contractor then becomes the architect's employer (at which point, the contractor tries to cut costs on everything and the architect gets upset at all their lovely detailing being thrown out on grounds of cost).

    There were/are problems with the Shard; at certain times of day, the sunlight reflects off the glass straight into the eyes of train drivers approaching London Bridge - it can be really blinding! There were meetings between the developers, Network Rail, the TOCs and the unions, but I'm not sure what the outcome was.
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  17. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    That's exactly the terminology used in such design & build contracts.
  18. _pH_

    _pH_ .

    I've worked on a couple designing the landscape element - a right pain in the arse when the client is happy with the outline design work then the contractor pressures you to change half of it because they screwed up the QS in their bid.
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  19. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    he trained in Argentina according to CityAM- its all a plot!!
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  20. WouldBe

    WouldBe non smoking

    Maybe it's time to revoke the architects license or at least restrict him to designing garden sheds. :eek: :D
  21. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    Walkie Scorchie

    The guy had a Jag and was driving around central London, no sympathy from me. Leave your car at home.
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  22. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    according to someone on the lunchtime news, the sun is in the wrong position at certain times.

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  23. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom Standing by on channel 12

    Amazing, it set a hair salon's doormat on fire :cool:
  24. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Does this mean they're going to knock it down?!! :)

    Thank you almighty sun god. :D
  25. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Nah, they're putting scaffolding round it :mad:
  26. _pH_

    _pH_ .

    Shamelessly stolen from b3ta (by Captain Howdy):

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  27. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    It's trying to start the riots again.
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  28. WouldBe

    WouldBe non smoking

    You could instal giant curtains over the building. :)
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  29. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    If the windows could be angled individually by motors to further enhance the sun rays, the building would make a very cool Bond supervillain weapon :cool:
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  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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