Discussion in 'Wales/Cymru' started by editor, Aug 6, 2018.
Want to save the planet? Move to Wales
I haven't checked out the details, so don't take this as a recommendation, but Swansea Building Society do Smallholding mortgages...
Totally. My other sent me this through last night, think she's quite tempted. Hats of to those doing it, but I'd need serious money to get started. I like things like water and power that are easily accessible.
Can they make ones that dont look really shit?
Great idea tbf.
Chapter7 /the land is ours provides information about planning low impact dwellings and covers England's bylaws and test cases about how to work with them
Really interesting to read about the Welsh policy, Thanks for posting, Editor
I hope this idea spreads. Always thought I'd love to do this or be part of it.
Will they allow for small groups to work together, I wonder? Or do you have to be isolated?
It would certainly seem more achievable with a group, both in terms of startup money and labour and skills once you got it started.
There's a builder somewhere near Hereford who specialises in building these houses - Cobs I think they are called, though I may be completely wrong about that - there's a few of them around.
A friend of mine is an architect specialising in this type of building, even he thinks a lot are very ugly, and says there's no reason for it.
Cob is the building material. It’s basically mud and straw, but obviously it’s more technical than that. The mud needs to be clay-ish, the straw can be some other kind of organic matter, and the proportions have to be right.
Building a wall out of cob.
Cob, cobb or clom (in Wales) is a natural building material made from subsoil, water, fibrous organic material(typically straw), and sometimes lime. The contents of subsoil naturally vary, and if it does not contain the right mixture it can be modified with sand or clay. Cob is fireproof, resistant to seismic activity, and inexpensive. It can be used to create artistic, sculptural forms, and its use has been revived in recent years by the natural building and sustainability movements.
And lots of cob houses are really beautiful, as are other kinds of eco homes. Just do a search for “ beautiful eco houses” or “beautiful cob houses” or some-such.
I have definitely seen one on TV that's a group effort - I think I'm sure that it was either in Herefordshire or not far over the Welsh border, and therefore the reason I watched it. I think it was a 'buy-in' type arrangement, with some of the capital being in labour form (fuck me, I sound like a Marxist theoretician..). It had X number of family homes, each with its own vege plot and a big communal plot (I think they had some livestock as well) and workshops that produced communal items and repairs and stuff for sale in the wider world that paid for communal stuff like new wind and solar power systems.
Interesting article on the Welsh policy.
I've had this bookmarked for years, similar looking property in some ways
BBC NEWS | Scotland | South of Scotland | How to build a house for £4,000
I know of one group who were starting a co-op with the help of Radical Routes - Radical Routes - A network of Housing Co-ops, Workers Co-ops and Social Centres with a cooperative mortgage from Personal savings and investments from ethical and sustainable bank Triodos. .. at least they were trying to get it together a couple of years ago when the planning policy first came through .
info how to do it here : http://www.radicalroutes.org.uk/publicdownloads/how-to-housing-co-op.pdf
I am up for it ! The hoops you have to jump through are quite stringent though.
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